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Êòî ñòàíåò äåòîíàòîðîì Ìàëèíîâîé ðåâîëþöèè?

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Êîíåö ðåæèìà ßíóêîâè÷à ïðèäåò èç öåíòðàëüíîóêðàèíñêîé ãëóáèíêè?
Êàæåòñÿ, ÿ ïîíÿë, ÷òî ìîæåò ñòàòü ïîñëåäíåé êàïëåé â íàçðåâàíèè
ðåâîëþöèîííîé ñèòóàöèè è êòî èìåííî (êàêîé ñîöèàëüíûé ñëîé) ñòàíåò
äåòîíàòîðîì Ìàëèíîâîé ðåâîëþöèè â Óêðàèíå.

Ìèðîâîé îïûò ïîñëåäíèõ
ÍÅÄÅËÜ ïîêàçûâàåò (â î÷åðåäíîé ðàç!), ÷òî äåòîíàòîðîì ðåâîëþöèè
ñòàíîâèòñÿ ÂÑÅÎÁÙÅÅ ÏÑÈÕÎËÎÃÈ×ÅÑÊÎÅ ÍÅÄÎÂÎËÜÑÒÂÎ ïî êàêîìó-ëèáî
ÊÎÍÊÐÅÒÍÎÌÓ ïîâîäó.

Íå ïðîñòî – æèòü ñòàëî ïëîõî.

Íå ïðîñòî ðåàëüíîñòü âäðóã îêàçàëàñü õóæå, ÷åì áûëè îæèäàíèÿ (íà ýòîì ïîñòðîåíà òåîðèÿ ðåâîëþöèè Äæåéìñà Äýâèñà).

Íå ïðîñòî âñåõ äîñòàëè.

À ÷òî-òî êîíêðåòíîå, ÷òî â ñîçíàíèè êðèòè÷åñêîãî êîëè÷åñòâà ëþäåé âîñïðèíèìàåòñÿ êàê ÂÎÏÈÞÙÀß ÍÅÑÏÐÀÂÅÄËÈÂÎÑÒÜ.

 2004 ãîäó ýòîé íåñïðàâäåëèâîñòüþ ñòàëà ôàëüñèôèêàöèÿ ðåçóëüòàòîâ.

 êîíöå 2010-ãî – óáèéñòâåííûé Íàëîãîâûé êîäåêñ.

È âîò â êîíöå ôåâðàëÿ 2011-ãî íàçðåâàåò íîâàÿ òåìà: óêðóïíåíèå ðàéîíîâ â Öåíòðàëüíîé Óêðàèíå.

Êàæåòñÿ,
ëþäè, êîòîðûå ëîááèðóþò ýòîò âðåäíûé äëÿ íàðîäà è ñòðàíû ïðîåêò,
êàæåòñÿ, ïîäêëàäûâàþò 10 êã. Ïîëèòè÷åñêîãî òðîòèëà â êàáèíåò ïðåçèäåíòà:
ôàêòè÷åñêè òàêîå óêðóïíåíèå ðàéîíîâ îçíà÷àåò óäàð – è ïî
èíôðàñòðóêòóðå, è ïî îáûäåííîé æèçíè ëþäåé. Ëèêâèäàöèÿ ðàéîíîâ îçíà÷àåò:
ëèêâèäàöèþ ïî÷òû, ðàéîííîé ïîëèêëèíèêè, ÷àñòî – íåñêîëüêèõ øêîë,

Ýòî ìîòèâèðóåòñÿ ñîêðàùåíèåì áþðîêðàòè÷åñêîãî àïïàðàòà.

ÄÀ,
ÀÏÏÀÐÀÒ ÌÎÆÍÎ ÑÎÊÐÀÒÈÒÜ – ïðîïîðöèîíàëüíî ðåàëüíîé çàíÿòîñòè è êðóãó
çàäà÷. Íî â äàííîé ñèòóàöèè ðå÷ü áóäåò èäòè îá ÓÍÈ×ÒÎÆÅÍÈÈ ÆÈÇÍÅÍÍÎÉ
ÈÍÔÐÀÑÒÐÓÊÒÓÐÛ è â áåç òîãî ñòîãíèðóþùèõ ðåãèîíàõ. Ìîæíî çàêðûòü
"íåïåðñïåêòèâíûå" øêîëû, îáúåäèíèòü ðàéîíû. È ïîòîì ïîâåñèòüñÿ îò
èäèîòèçìà æèçíè ãäå-íèáóäü íà Òðîåùèíå èëè íà Õàðüêîâñêîì ìàññèâå.
Ïîòîìó ÷òî â òàêîé ìîäåëè æèçíè, â êîòîðîé íåò ìåñòà âñåì ýòèì ìàëûì
ðàéîíàì è "íåïåðñïåêòèâíûì" øêîëàì, – Óêðàèíà èñ÷åçíåò êàê èñòîðè÷åñêàÿ
ðåàëüíîñòü.

Òî åñòü, ðå÷ü èäåò åñëè íå î ãåíîöèäå (íàâåðíîå, ÍÅ î
ãåíîöèäå), íî î ÐÀÑ×ÈÙÅÍÈÈ ÒÅÐÐÈÒÎÐÈÈ îò óêðàèíöåâ – ëåò ÷åðåç 10-15
âñå ýòè Çâåíèãîðîäñêèå, Êàíåâñêèå, Çîëîòîíîøñêèå, Øèøàöêèå, Ïðèëóêñêèå,
Ïèðÿòèíñêèå, Íåäðèãàéëîâñêèå ðàéîíû ìîæíî ñïîêîéíî áóäåò çàñåëÿòü
ÊÈÒÀÉÖÀÌÈ. Èëè ÀÐÀÁÀÌÈ. Èëè êåì-íèáóäü åùå (â èíòåðíåòå ìóññèðóåòñÿ
èäåÿ, ÷òî êðûìñêèìè òàòàðàìè).

 ñâîå âðåìÿ (â 1960-1970-õ ãîäàõ)
ñîâåòñêàÿ âëàñòü çàíèìàëàñü ÃÅÍÎÖÈÄÎÌ öåíòðàëüíûõ îáëàñòåé ÐÑÔÑÐ (áûë
äàæå ïðèäóìàí óíè÷èæèòåëüíûé òåðìèí: "Íå÷åðíîçåìüå"). Ñîöèîëîã Òàòüÿíà
Çàñëàâñêàÿ áûëà îäíèì èç èäåîëîãîâ "îïòèìèçàöèè" (ôàêòè÷åñêè,
óíè÷òîæåíèÿ) "íåïåðñïåêòèâíûõ" äåðåâåíü. Â ðåçóëüòàòå, âî Âëàäèìèðñêîé,
Ðÿçàíñêîé, Ñìîëåíñêîé, Êàëóæñêîé, ßðîñëàâñêîé, äà è ïî êðàÿì Ìîñêîâñêîé
îáëàñòåé ÆÈÒÜ ÍÅËÜÇß. Óêðàèíà íà ôîíå ðîññèéñêîãî "Íå÷åðíîçåìüÿ"
êàçàëàñü áîëåå ðàäîñòíûì ðåãèîíîì.

Íî èäåîëîãè-ëèêâèäàòîðû èçíà÷àëüíî ñïèñàëè ñî ñ÷åòîâ íàñåëåíèå Öåíòðàëüíîé Óêðàèíû.

Îäíàêî, îäíî äåëî – ëàâî÷íèêè-"óïðîùåíöû".

Äðóãîå – öåíòðàëüíîóêðàèíñêèå ñåëÿíå è æèòåëè ðàéöåíòðîâ. À èì – òåðÿòü óæå íå÷åãî. Ýòî íå êîëëåêòèâèçàöèÿ è íå 1933-é.

Êàæåòñÿ,
òå, êòî ïðèäóìàë ýòîò ÷åëîâåêîíåíàâèñòíè÷åñêèé ïðîåêò ïî "îïòèìèçàöèè"
ðàéîíîâ è íàñåëåíèÿ, íàïðàâëåííûé íà ÎÑÊÓÄÍÅÍÈÅ, ÇÀÏÓÑÒÅÍÈÅ è ËÈÊÂÈÄÀÖÈÞ
ñòðàíû, çàáûëè:

1. ×òî Öåíòðàëüíàÿ Óêðàèíà – ýòî ïîòîìêè
ïðåèìóùåñòâåííî êîçàêîâ. (Åùå ðàç: ÊÎÇÀÊÎÂ, à íå êðåïîñòíûõ, íå ðàáîâ,
íå ïðîëåòàðèåâ è íå øàõòåðîâ.)

2. ×òî èìåííî â Ïðàâîáåðåæíîé Öåíòðàëüíîé Óêðàèíå áûëî äâèæåíèå ãàéäàìàêîâ, à ïîòîì – ìàõíîâöåâ.

3.
×òî èìåííî Öåíòðàëüíàÿ Óêðàèíà ïðåäîïðåäåëèëà èñõîä Îðàíæåâîé
ðåâîëþöèè. (Åùå ðàç: íå çàïàäíîóêðàèíñêèå ñòóäåíòû è "âóéêè", íå
àìåðèêàíñêèå ïîñëû, íå "êîëëåêòèâíûé Ãëåá Ïàâëîâñêèé", à èìåííî æèòåëè
òåõ ñàìûõ Ïèðÿòèíñêèõ, Çîëîòîíîøñêèõ è Ïðèëóêñêèõ ðàéîíîâ.)

ß íå ïîíèìàþ, çà÷åì íàñòóïàòü íà ãðàáëè?

Çà÷åì ñïîòûêàòüñÿ íà ðîâíîì ìåñòå?

ß íå äóìàþ, ÷òî Óêðàèíå òàê óæ íóæíà åùå îäíà ðåâîëþöèÿ...


êîìåíòàð³ äî ñòàòò³:

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27.02.11 08:11
Îò ÿêðàç àáè íå äîïóñòèòè âèëþäíåííÿ Óêðà¿íè ³ ïîòð³áíà ðåâîëÿö³¿. Íå îáîâÿçêîâî çáðîéíà, íå îáîâÿçêîâî íàñèëüíèöüêà, àëå îáîâÿçêîâî ³ç ïóáë³÷íèìè ñòðàòàìè, ç ëþñòðàö³ºþ. ²íøîãî øëÿõó íåìà: àáî øâèäêå, ðàäèêàëüíå î÷îùåííÿ, â ïåðøó ÷åðãó ñâ³äîìîñò³ â³ä "ñîâêà" àáî øâèäêà, ïðè òåïåð³øí³é âëàä³, ÷è ïîâ³ëüí³øà, ÿêùî äî âëàäè ïðèéäóòü á³ëîñðàê³, òà âñå îäíî ñìåðòü. ² íå òðåáà ñåáå ò³øèòè ³ëþç³ÿìè. Äâàäöÿòü ðîê³â á³ëüø í³æ äîñòàòíüî àáè îòÿìèòèñÿ!

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Á³ëîñðàê³ öå ÿ òàê ðîçóì³þ òèìîøåíê³âö³ ÷è êîãî Âè ìàºòå íà óâàç³? Äîáðå, çðîáèìî ðåâîëþö³þ, à êîãî äî âëàäè ïðèâåäåìî?

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Ó íàñ â ²çìà¿ë³ íåìà àáñîëþòíî í³ÿêî¿ ð³çíèö³ ì³æ ÏåÐäóí³âñüêèìè ³ ÁÞÒ³âñüêèìè óêðà¿íîôîáàìè. Òîìó áîðîòèñÿ àáè çì³íèòè îäíèõ íà ³íøèõ äëÿ ìåíå íåìຠí³ÿêîãî ñåíñó. Ùî ñòîñóºòüñÿ êîãî ïðèâåäåìî äî âëàäè? Òî ÿêùî ìè ñàì³ íå çäàòí³ çîîðãàí³çóâàòè ñâîº æèòòÿ áåç óñèõ îöèõ ñîâêîâèõ ä³ÿ÷³â,.. Ùèðî ñêàæó -- îò ÿêðàç òàê³ ïèòàííÿ ìåíå áóêâàëüíî âáèâàþòü. ß ¿õ âæå ÷óâ â 91, â 2004.

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Âè íå â³äïîâ³ëè.
×è Âè îñîáèñòî ñòàíåòå ïðåçèäåíòîì?


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27.02.11 12:06
À ùî çíà÷èòü ÿ "îñîáèñòî ñòàíó Ïðåçèäåíòîì"? Ó íàñ Ïðåçèäåíòà îáèðàþòü. À ÷è ãîòîâèé ÿ ïðèéòè ó âëàäó äëÿ ðåàë³çàö³¿ ñâî¿õ ³äåîëîã³÷íèõ ïîãëàää³â? Ñàìå äëÿ öüîãî ÿ ³ â÷èâñÿ. Ìàþ ñòåï³íü ìàã³ñòðà äåðæàâíîãî óïðàâë³ííÿ ³ ïîë³òè÷íîãî ìàðêåòèíãó. Òîìó ãîòîâèé ïðàöþâàòè íà Óêðà¿íó íà áóäü-ÿê³é ïîñàä³, ÿêà â³äïîâ³äຠìî¿é êâàë³ô³êàö³¿. ² áóäüòå ïåâí³ -- ïðèíöèïàìè í³êîëè íå òîðãóâàâ. Òîìó ³ çíàõîäæóñü ñüîãîäí³ äóæå äàëåêî â³ä âëàäè. À çà ïèòàíÿ äÿêóþ.

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27.02.11 12:10
Òàê, ó íàñ ïðåçèäåíòà îáèðàþòü. Îñü éîãî ³ îáðàëè. Çàâòðà çðîáèìî ðåâîëþö³þ, çíîâ âèáîðè? Íà àðåí³ ò³ æ ñàì³. Çíîâ îáåðåìî ßíóêîâè÷à ÷è Òèìîøåíêî. Òîä³ íàâ³ùî ðåâîëþö³ÿ, ÿêùî ìîæíà ïðèéòè äî âëàäè äåìîêðàòè÷íèì øëÿõîì, ÿêèé Âè ñïîâ³äóºòå?

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27.02.11 12:18
ͳ. Íå îäðàçó âèáîðè. Ñïî÷àòêó ïðîãîëîøåííÿ íîâî¿ äåðæàâè. Ïîò³ì ïåðåðåºñòðàö³ÿ ãðîìàäÿí çà Ëàòâ³éñüêèì çðàçêîì, ïðîâåäåííÿ ëþñòðàö³¿. À âæå òîä³ âèáîðè. Äåðæàâó ìàþòü áóäóâàòè ò³ õòî â³äñòîþº ñàìå ¿¿ ³ñíóâàííÿ. Ò³ õòî ïðîòè ³ñíóâàííÿ Óêðà¿íñüêî¿ äåðæàâè -- ïðèíàì³ õàé íå çàâàæàþòü. Ðîçóì³þ -- äîñèòü ðàäèêàëüíî. Àëå ç ìèíóëèì òðåáà ðâàòè ð³øó÷å, ³íàêøå âîíî áóäå âèñ³òè íåï³éîìíèìè ãèðÿìè íà íîãàõ. Òîìó äëÿ ìåíå íåìà âèáîðó ì³æ Õàìîì ³ ÞÂÒ. Ò³ëüêè íîâ³ ë³äåðè ç äåðæàâíèöüêîþ ñâ³äîì³ñòþ, áåç ñîâêîâî¿ çàëåæíîñò³.

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Ëàìàòè íå áóäóâàòè. Õòî çàâàæàâ óêðà¿íöÿì ãîòóâàòè àëüòåðíàòèâíó ñèëó äî âèáîð³â 2010? Ñâÿòå ì³ñöå íå áóâຠïóñòèì, ÿê â³äîìî. Ðåâîëþö³þ òðåáà äîâãî òà ðåòåëüíî ãîòóâàòè, ³ êîëè ¿¿ çðîáëÿòü, äåðæàâà íå ìîæå çíàõîäèòèñÿ â î÷³êóâàíí³, êîëè æ ùîñü ïîáóäóþòü. ßêùî íåìà ÷îãî çàïðîïîíóâàòè ñüîãîäí³, òî íåìà ñåíñó ðîáèòè ðåâîëþö³þ. Ðåâîëþö³ÿ ðîáèòüñÿ ç ìåòîþ çàõâàòó âëàäè, îñü ÿ ³ ïîñòàâèëà Âàì ÷³òêå çàïèòàííÿ: ÕÒÎ áóäå çàõîïëþâàòè âëàäó? Öå ïîâèííà áóòè ïîë³òè÷íà ñèëà ÷è âîºí³çîâàíå óãðóïóâàííÿ, àëå âñå-îäíî ï³ä ïðîâîäîì ïîë³òè÷íèõ ä³ÿ÷³â, ÿê³ â ìîìåíò çä³éñíåííÿ çàõîïëåííÿ âëàäè áóäå ãîòîâå ìîìåíòàëüíî çàïðîïîíóâàòè íîâó ìîäåëü êåðóâàííÿ äåðæàâîþ ³ ïîâèííà ìàòè äëÿ öüîãî êàäðè.
Ïîâòîðþ çàïèòàííÿ ùå ðàç: äå ö³ êàäðè? Õòî áóäå ðîáèòè ðåâîëþö³þ?

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27.02.11 12:53
Çðîçóì³â. Äîçâîëüòå íå â³äïîâ³äàòè íà îñòàíº ïèòàííÿ? Ìîæó çàïåâíèòè, òàêà ñèëà º. ² óñï³õ ¿¿ áóäå çàëåæàòè â³ä íàøî¿ çäàòíîñò³ íå ñïîä³âàòèñÿ íà â÷îðàøí³õ ë³äåð³â, à â÷àñíî ï³äòðèìàòè, â òîìó ÷èñë³ ³ ñâîºþ ó÷àñòþ ó ñòàíîâëåí³ íîâî¿ äåðæàâè. Âèáà÷òå, á³ëüøîãî íå ñêàæó.
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 ñàðêîôàãå ßðîñëàâà Ìóäðîãî íàõîäèëèñü îñòàíêè äâóõ æåíùèí èç ðàçíûõ âðåìåí

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 Â ñàðêîôàãå ßðîñëàâà Ìóäðîãî íàõîäèëèñü îñòàíêè äâóõ æåíùèí èç ðàçíûõ âðåìåí

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Ïîñëåäíèå ÄÍÊ-ýêñïåðòèçû ïîêàçàëè, ÷òî â ñàðêîôàãå ßðîñëàâà Ìóäðîãî õðàíÿòñÿ îñòàíêè äâóõ æåíùèí. Ýòî ñòàëî èçâåñòíî ïîñëå òîãî, êàê èññëåäîâàòåëè âçÿëè ïðîáû íà ÄÍÊ ñ êàæäîé êîñòè. Òàêèì îáðàçîì, ñêåëåò áûë ñëîæåí èç êîñòåé êàê ìèíèìóì äâóõ æåíùèí. Âåðõíÿÿ ÷àñòü ñêåëåòà èìååò ïðîèñõîæäåíèå 6-7 âåêà äî íàøåé ýðû, à íèæíÿÿ ÷àñòü ñêåëåòà ïðèíàäëåæèò æåíùèíå, êîòîðàÿ æèëà â 11-13 âåêàõ.

Äàæå ïåðâîíà÷àëüíûé îñìîòð ñêåëåòà óæå íàñòîðîæèë ó÷åíûõ, ïîòîìó ÷òî îí áûë íåïðîïîðöèîíàëüíûì: âåðõíèå êîñòè áûëè áîëåå ìàññèâíûìè, à íèæíèå – áîëåå òîíêèìè. Ïåðâûì ïðåäïîëîæåíèåì áûëî, ÷òî â ñàðêîôàãå ßðîñëàâà ìóäðîãî õðàíÿòñÿ îñòàíêè ñóïðóãè ßðîñëàâà Èíãèãåðäà.

Îäíàêî âåðõíÿÿ ÷àñòü ñêåëåòà ÿâíî íå ìîãëà ïðèíàäëåæàòü êíÿæåñêîìó ðîäó, äàæå åñëè íå ó÷èòûâàòü âðåìåííîé ïàðàìåòð. Ýòè êîñòè ãîâîðÿò î òîì, ÷òî æåíùèíà çàíèìàëàñü î÷åíü òÿæåëîé ðàáîòîé, à òî, ÷òî â êîñòÿõ ñîäåðæèòñÿ áîëüøîå êîëè÷åñòâî ðàäèÿ, ãîâîðèò î òîì, ÷òî æåíùèíà ïðîæèâàëà â ãîðàõ.
 

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Paul V Lashkevich:

Åñòü èíôîðìàöèÿ î âûâîçå ìîùåé ßðîñëàâà Ìóäðîãî ïðè îòñòóïëåíèè ãèòëåðîâöåâ ïîëêîâíèêîì êîëàáîðàöèîíèñòîì è î äàëüíåéøåì èõ ïåðåìåùåíèè â Ñåâåðíóþ Àìåðèêó è õðàíåíèå ó ïðåäñòàâèòåëåé Óêðàèíñêîé Àâòîêåôàëüëíîé Öåðêâè - èõ ðóêîâîäñòâî íå îòðèöàåò èíôîðìàöèè è íå èä¸ò íà äîâåðèòåëüíûé êîíòàêò.

Èññëåäîâàëè âîçìîæíîñòü îòïðàâêè ìîùåé â Ðîññèþ ïîñëå äî - âîåííîãî âñêðûòèÿ ñàðêîôàãà. 

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Êàê íàì âåðíóòü ðàé. Øåìøóê Â.À (Àóäèîêíèãà)

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Êàê íàì âåðíóòü Ðàé Íàñòîÿùèé ñáîðíèê èññëåäîâàíèé ïîñâÿùåí îïèñàíèþ äîñòèæåíèé äðåâíèõ öèâèëèçàöèé, ïðè÷èí èõ ãèáåëè è ïóòåé âîçâðàùåíèÿ ×åëîâå÷åñòâà îáðàòíî ê ñâîåìó ïðåæíåìó ìîãóùåñòâó. Îí ñîñòîèò èç òð¸õ ÷àñòåé. Ïåðâàÿ - "Íàøè ïðåäêè" - âûõîäèò ñóùåñòâåííî äîïîëíåííîé íîâûìè ìàòåðèàëàìè. Âòîðàÿ ÷àñòü, âîøåäøàÿ â ýòîò ñáîðíèê, "Èñòîêè ëóííîãî êóëüòà", òàêæå ïåðåðàáîòàíà, èñïðàâëåíà è äîïîëíåíà íîâîé èíôîðìàöèåé.  òðåòüåé ÷àñòè "Âîçâðàùåíèå Ðàÿ íà Çåìëþ" ñêîíöåíòðèðîâàíû ìàòåðèàëû èññëåäîâàíèé î òîì, ÷òî íåîáõîäèìî ñäåëàòü, ÷òîáû âåðíóòü íà Çåìëþ óòðà÷åííûé Ðàé.

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Bristol - Abbey (Protestant Church) - Psalm 148: "O Praise The Lord of Heaven" - Here I am, Lord

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 Bristol - Abbey (Protestant Church) - Psalm 148: "O Praise The Lord of Heaven"


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Bristol Cathedral began life as a Norman abbey church, became an Anglican Cathedral after the Dissolution in 1539, and was almost entirely rebuilt in the neo-Gothic style in the late 19th century.

History:
Bristol Cathedral began as Abbey in 1140. The chapterhouse, still standing, dates from 1165.

The Norman abbey church was rebuilt from 1298 onwards, but the new church was still incomplete at the Dissolution of the Monasteries in 1539 when its nave was demolished.

In 1542 the church was made the cathedral of a new Diocese of Bristol and was dedicated to the Holy and Undivided Trinity.

The nave was eventually built during the 19th century and the building was completed by two towers at the west end in 1888.


Names: Cathedral Church of the Holy and Undivided Trinity in Bristol; Bristol Cathedral
Type of site: Cathedral
Faith: Christian Faith (Anglican Church)
Status: Active
Dates: 1140; 1888
Architecture: Norman and neo-Gothic
Location: College Green, Bristol, England BS1 5TJ
Bus: 8 or 9
Phone: 01179/264 879
Website: http://www.bristol-cathedral.co.uk/

Services:
Sunday: 7.40am Morning Prayer; 8.00am Holy Communion; 10.00am Cathedral Eucharist; 3.30pm Choral Evensong. Weekdays: Morning Prayer at 8.30am; Eucharist at 12.30pm; Evensong at 5.15pm (Saturdays at 3.30pm)
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Bristol Anglican Episcopal Cathedral Church of England Elizabeth II Psalm 148 Praise The Lord Heaven Reformed Protestant Evangelical Jesus Christ God Choral Pipe Organ Orgel órgão Organo westminster abbey
Êîììåíòàðèè ïîëüçîâàòåëÿ, çàãðóçèâøåãî âèäåî (choralcathedral1)
 

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The Destruction of...........äóìà î òðàäèöèè è î ñïðàâåäëèâîñòè

http://www.liveinternet.ru/users/paul_v_lashkevich/post153650619/

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Here I am, Lord


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k14ggI2sbCU

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York - Protestant Cathedral: "Psalm VIII" - Anglican Choir


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdKQh7pHlwc

choralcathedral1 | 09.08.2009 | 28 ïîíðàâèëîñü, 0 íå ïîíðàâèëîñü

York Minster Anglican Church is a Gothic Cathedral in York, England and is one of the largest of its kind in Northern Europe alongside Cologne Cathedral. The Minster is the seat of the bishop of York, the second-highest office of the Church of England, and is cathedral for the Diocese of York; it is run by a Dean and Chapter under the Dean of York. The formal title of York Minster is The Cathedral and Metropolitan Church of St Peter in York.

The English Reformation led to the first Anglican archbishop, the looting of much of the cathedral's treasures, and the loss of much of the church lands. Under Elizabeth I there was a concerted effort to remove all traces of the Roman Catholic Church from the cathedral; there was much destruction of tombs, windows, and altars. In the English Civil War the city was besieged and fell to the forces of Cromwell in 1644, but Thomas Fairfax prevented any further damage to the cathedral.

Location: York
Full Name: Cathedral and Metropolitan Church of St Peter
County: North Yorkshire
Country: England
Denomination: Church of England
Province: York
Diocese: York
Diocese created: 314
Bishop: John Sentamu
Dean Very Revd Keith Jones
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Ìóçûêà
Òåãè:
Psalm VIII Evangelical Anglican Church Choir Your Minster England Cathedral Baptist Bible book Jesus Christ choir choral churches congregation Episcopal holy hymn hymnal hymnbook Lutheran Methodist Igreja Luterana Metodista Batista Presbiteriana Presbyterian piano pipe organ orgel orge organo prayer worship service culto protestante protestant songs gospel eglesia
 

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Âñå êîììåíòàðèè (20)

glorious! beautiful!  exquisite! Thank you so much.
lollyclan 6 äí. íàçàä
Ýòîò êîììåíòàðèé áûë ïîìå÷åí êàê ñïàì ïîêàçàòü
naymelful 2 ìåñ. íàçàä

Thanks so much for posting. Happy new year!
naymelful 2 ìåñ. íàçàä

Every two years or so since 1991 we go to England ..and in our usually 3 day stays in York,on each of those trips,we would enter this church,1 or two times a day...As we usually do in all the towns we visit on our month long trips.. .A few years ago we were faced with a newly implemented large entrance fee.....even at evensong,what a shame to not be able to afford this part of Christianity...
merseybeat1963 2 ìåñ. íàçàä

@FlyerRan They were!
Lisnageeragh 3 ìåñ. íàçàä

The Church of England was not protestant dung the time of Henry VIII, reformist would be a better word. However, from Queeen Elizabeth I it became very much Protestant. Any Roman trappings were destroyed and the rift with Rome was set.
davidnash41 6 ìåñ. íàçàä

@davidnash41 I don't agree with your assessment. The period when the English Church steered furthest away from Rome was during the short reign of Edward VI after Henry VIII's death. Elizabeth I was very mistrustful of the protestant reformation in mainland Europe and steered a middle way for the Anglican Church, which largely abides to this day. Most Anglicans, would not call themselves protestant, in the way that Lutherans, Baptists and Methodists do.
foodie65 5 ìåñ. íàçàä

@foodie65

My understanding was there were three movements during the nineteenth century, the Evangelical (which sounds very Protestant), the Tractarian (Oxford) movement which seemed to have much more ornate services, and then the Broad Church seeking to combine them.

Then in the late 19th century another Anglican-Catholic movement started, and more recently in 1977 with a new splinter group.
ysbaddaden2003 5 ìåñ. íàçàä

@ysbaddaden2003 It's slightly more complicated than that but in summary all of those things are true. The structure of the Anglican church, with the 1662 prayer book, and Common Worship liturgies, and Bishops and Archbishops remian in place. Anglicans from the high and broad church and even many from traditional low church backgrounds find the evangelical movement "un-Anglican", and would not describe themselves as protestant.
foodie65 5 ìåñ. íàçàä

The Anglican Church Isn't Protestant .... Get It Right :P It's Catholic But Not In Communion With Rome And Also The Reformation Wasn't In Protestant Intention, To Be Honest You Should Change It To 'York - Anglican Cathedral: "Psalm VIII" - Anglican Choir'
coldlittle 6 ìåñ. íàçàä

@coldlittle The C of E ceased to have any claim to call itself Catholic the day it ordained women to the priesthood. Women priests are most definitely not Catholic practice.
patrickjs865 6 ìåñ. íàçàä

We do not use the term 'Protestant' in the Church of England. And the notes referring to York as a 'bishopric' is wrong - York is an 'Archbishopric' and the Archbishop of York is the 'Primate of England' (second to the Archbishop of Canterbury, who is 'Primate of All England'.
ds1868 6 ìåñ. íàçàä

This is the same tune that LCMS Lutherans use to sing the Te Deum. I love it!
speaks3703 7 ìåñ. íàçàä 2

@speaks3703 wonderful song even, very beautiful!
choralcathedral1 7 ìåñ. íàçàä

Small correction: the office is Archbishop, not bishop.
DVG922 11 ìåñ. íàçàä

Very nice!

The bass really comes through too.

York Minster has provided me with some of the most beautiful moments in life. The Evensong is extremely refreshing and whenever I'm in the city, I never fail to attend, even if it means waiting two hours for the next train home!
ramesses88 1 ãîä íàçàä

Total perfection from our very own York Minster.A perfect recording around Easter Time.The images are magnificent. Quite often I visit for Choral Evensong which is held in the Choir area.
lexscar1 1 ãîä íàçàä

This is magnificient, it is the best I have ever heard keep up the spirit. Hannington Sebuliba- Kampala Uganda
hsebuliba 1 ãîä íàçàä

@hsebuliba ,Ironically the Archbishop of York is Jon Sentanu from Kampala Arriving in England in the early 70s and has since been Bishop of Birmingham,before taking his present position.I can confirm his happiness and the good work he is doing...May God bless you and all in Uganda.....Peter
lexscar1 9 ìåñ. íàçàä


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This is awesome. Thanks for uploading.
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The Destruction of...........äóìà î òðàäèöèè è î ñïðàâåäëèâîñòè

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Âîñêðåñåíüå, 27 Ôåâðàëÿ 2011 ã. 07:22 + â öèòàòíèê

 Athens Acropolis New Museum Destruction of St.George Greece


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82sOEBLAq0Y

DestroyingHistoryGr | 09.05.2007 | 9 ïîíðàâèëîñü, 5 íå ïîíðàâèëîñü

The catastrophy of St. George without a licence, but with Police Forces protecting the buldozas.
The church was out of the range of the illegal building New Museum of Acropolis and not in front of the etrance. The unique ancient pentagon building of the philosophical schools was divide in coloured zones of importance for easier catastrophy.
The church had on a marble the names (one side) of the brotherkilling civil war at 1944 and it was thrown.
After the buldozas destroyed the church the policeman body guard of the private president of the museum he was filmed the house of the people that they were watching the facts.
It was 5 November 2002 and when the dust of St.George falls down, a storm sinked Athens (Moshato, Faliro) with catastrophies. This shame day, a storm sinked the excavation and the antiquities at Dion (Pieria) were the president of the private museum is also director.
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Íîâîñòè è ïîëèòèêà
Òåãè:
Athens Acropolis New Museum Parthenon Greece Culture AcropolisofAthens Costas Varatsos Bernard Tschumi Arc
Âñå êîììåíòàðèè
Äîáàâëåíèå êîììåíòàðèåâ ê ýòîìó âèäåî çàïðåùåíî.
 

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DESTROY below the ACROPOLIS


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Naf9X8Ix7Lw

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versomusic | 08.11.2007 | 16 ïîíðàâèëîñü, 3 íå ïîíðàâèëîñü

SHALL THEY DEMOLISH A WORK OF ART,
TO REVEAL A RESTAURANT TERRACE?

DELISTING, WITH AN INTENT TO DEMOLISH, OF A PROTECTED BUILIDING AT 17 DIONYSIOU AREOPAGITOU STR., ATHENS.

(see also the greek version)
More at: http://areopagitou17.blogspot.com

The building at 17 Dionysiou Areopagitou, below the Acropolis, ranks according to architecture historians among the most significant early 20th century monuments, and is the most beautiful Art Deco specimen in Athens. Its façade is decorated with mosaics, sculptures and grey and pink marble. It was designed in 1930 by the famous greek architect Vassilis Kouremenos (1875 -- 1957).

The building was listed as protected by the ministry of physical planning in 1978, along with another eight on the same street, and as a Work of Art by the culture ministry in 1988.

After fierce debate and a hung vote which was resolved by the chairman's double vote, it was recommended that the building at 17 Dion. Areopagitou be de-listed as a Work of Art, so that it may also be de-listed as protected, together with its neighbour, and be demolished. The reason: the buildings partly block the view between the New Acropolis Museum and the Acropolis.

Demolishing the two listed buildings would mutilate the architectural continuum of Dionysiou Areopagitou, which helps make this walkway one of the most interesting and beautiful in Europe. It would also vanquish an important piece of our modern urban history. Ironically, this is for the benefit of a museum site, whose mission should be to preserve and transmit memory, not to destroy it.
Êàòåãîðèÿ:

Íîâîñòè è ïîëèòèêà
Òåãè:
Acropolis Parthenon Athens Greece New Museum Areopagitou Destroy History Art Deco Building Architecture Listed Monument
Êîììåíòàðèè ïîëüçîâàòåëÿ, çàãðóçèâøåãî âèäåî (versomusic)

Demolishing the listed building would mutilate the architectural continuum of D. Areopagitou, which helps make this walkway one of the most interesting and beautiful in Europe. It would also vanquish an important piece of our modern urban history. Ironically, this is for the benefit of a museum site, whose mission should be to preserve and transmit memory, not to destroy it.
versomusic 3 ã. íàçàä
 

 

 

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The Destruction of St. George Lithuanian Church - Shenandoah, PA


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhmF7BxGgHs

popalis | 01.03.2010 | 7 ïîíðàâèëîñü, 1 íå ïîíðàâèëîñü

The Lithuanian Parish in Shenandoah was established in 1872, the cornerstone of the present church was laid in 1891.
Photographs by Dave Perez, Charles Vascavage & Bruce Popalis. Video by Andrew Popalis. Music by Kevin Macleod.
Êàòåãîðèÿ:

Íîâîñòè è ïîëèòèêà
Òåãè:
St. George Shenandoah PA church catholic Lithuanian
Êîììåíòàðèè ïîëüçîâàòåëÿ, çàãðóçèâøåãî âèäåî (popalis)

What happened to the bell towers? Did they just blacken over the years, or were they burned out or what?
promagnum 7 ìåñ. íàçàä

The black on the bell towers was a netting to hold the granite blocks in place and prevent them from falling.
popalis 7 ìåñ. íàçàä
Ïðîñìîòðåòü âñå
Âñå êîììåíòàðèè (20)

Are you so short of land over there ? don't you want anything for the next generation to enjoy. Why not use the building for something else? libery, gum, apartments, gallery, theatre, education centre ,restaurant/bar/dance club, even use it as a supermarket. Thats whot thay do in England.
askinlad 3 ÷. íàçàä

So very painful to watch...the photography is stunning.
jpengen 4 äí. íàçàä

What happened to those 2 beautiful Angels that sat gracefully atop Saint George's Church above the front entrance??
dannyzad17 1 ìåñÿö íàçàä

This video brings tears to my eyes. To see such a gorgeous house of God destroyed....ugh............. Does anyone know what became of its beautiful interior furnishings, windows, bells, and instruments?? I'd really appreciate knowing that... I'd love to also know more about Saint George's. please let me know
dannyzad17 4 ìåñ. íàçàä

What ever became of the beautiful windows, furnishings and other great peices of this church??
dannyzad17 4 ìåñ. íàçàä

OUTRAGEOUS! What about Our Lady of The Angels Cathrdal in LA ? That church is hideous and a clear example of the "Spirit of Vatican II".
CSTCFL 4 ìåñ. íàçàä

Soooooooooo sad..........my father's family was instumental in the founding of this church. Their name is on one of the bells.....what I would give for a brick, stone, piece of wood. Were there any artifacts saved? Where are the bells ? Beautiful, heartbreaking video. Thank you, Mary Strolis schulz
marrycee 5 ìåñ. íàçàä

Thank you for the beautiful video on St. George. We were recently in Shenandoah visiting our great aunt and she told us the church had been closed, then burned and taken down.  We went over to the church - very sad white fence around the lot. Can't the diocese at least put up a memorial! This is no way to treat the first Lithuanian parish in the US. We have been trying to reaching my husband's Lithuanian roots and can't access the St George records. What was date of fire and demolition?

1212caburke 6 ìåñ. íàçàä


Îòâåòèòü


@popalis Ok thanks.
promagnum 7 ìåñ. íàçàä
 

The black on the bell towers was a netting to hold the granite blocks in place and prevent them from falling.
popalis 7 ìåñ. íàçàä

What happened to the bell towers? Did they just blacken over the years, or were they burned out or what?
promagnum 7 ìåñ. íàçàä

This is such a disgrace....when I think that us Lithuanians in Paris (France) are looking for a church to accomodate our growing congregation and can't find one.
Iggy3d 8 ìåñ. íàçàä

These "bishops", "archbishops", "cardinals", and "popes" have no authority, for they accept the heresies and apostasy of the Second Vatican Council (and even worse beliefs). They are outside the Church founded by Jesus Christ. Those who are outside the Church cannot lead the Church.
Ciriaco323 9 ìåñ. íàçàä

When the infiltrators took over the Church and implemented the apostasy known as the Second Vatican Council, nobody rose up. When they took away the Mass and replaced it with the N. O. "mass", nobody rose up. Now these and other infiltrators are going after any tradition left for the people (traditional looking churches, etc), who is there to rise up?
Ciriaco323 9 ìåñ. íàçàä

What a disgrace that such a beautiful church be destroyed due to the apathy of the archdiocese. Bishops need to be held accountable for their lack of leadership and their lack of orthodoxy.
Nothwithstanding 9 ìåñ. íàçàä 2


Îòâåòèòü


architekturos gaila, institucija tai nx.
VarykGerai 9 ìåñ. íàçàä

...Why destroy a wonderful church? Destroying art operas, smashing the organ...
etbuk 10 ìåñ. íàçàä 2

very professional jobvery sad and beautifuli
1stward462 11 ìåñ. íàçàä

Great job making this video.

5 STARS!
TheChampionInMe 11 ìåñ. íàçàä
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Destruction of church


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2RKn4NDle4

kozacek5 | 03.05.2008 | 1 ïîíðàâèëîñü, 0 íå ïîíðàâèëîñü

God is powerful...
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Êèíî è ÒÂ
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church destruction pwned owned crash kill death god
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Kosovo Church Desecration


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuX0-1j7ovM

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Serbian Kosovo & Metohia - 150 Orthodox Monasteries and Churches Before & After Being Destroyed


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHSav7TbYBM

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Kosovo Church Desecration


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwDg8B4Lyrg

GreekWithBigDick | 26.05.2009 | 11 ïîíðàâèëîñü, 1 íå ïîíðàâèëîñü

Albanian UCK soldiers Desecrate upon Orthodox Church in Kosovo. Such terrorists are supported by international community due to USA propaganda in favor of them. Shame and disgust...
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Ñïîðò
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Kosovo Serbia Albania USA Greece Turkey Republica Srpska Radovan Karadjic Arkan Milosevic Mladic UCK KLA EU crimes Haradinaj Carla del ponte UK Belgrade Pristina Tirane Wahington
 

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this is not Albanian. They are not even speaking Albanian! It's serbian propanganda to the west
RealAlbo4life 1 ìåñÿö íàçàä

these are not albanian.

stop lying gayreek..hzahah
ManKaleshi 2 ìåñ. íàçàä

so why people mad when now burning quran?
yasm2002 5 ìåñ. íàçàä

fuck muslim
nour201085 11 ìåñ. íàçàä 4
Ýòîò êîììåíòàðèé áûë ïîìå÷åí êàê ñïàì ïîêàçàòü
tagdapu1 6 ìåñ. íàçàä
Ýòîò êîììåíòàðèé áûë ïîìå÷åí êàê ñïàì ïîêàçàòü
bosna501 11 ìåñ. íàçàä

fuck all radical islamists fuck you all for this and go to hell
GeorgianGamer 1 ãîä íàçàä 3

@GeorgianGamer

lol this video is not in Kosovo is in Bosnia - Hercegovina this languuage is not in albanian

albanian are tolerant :)

PS; this video is 100% serb and greek propaganda fuck the M O N G O L nation
AIGLE2TETE 11 ìåñ. íàçàä
Ýòîò êîììåíòàðèé áûë ïîìå÷åí êàê ñïàì ñêðûòü
Íå ñïàì

Here a another video serbs said

the Mosque must burn.

watch?v=9bddLC4aCmM&feature=re  lated

The Name of the video:

dzamija zapali je
bosna501 1 ãîä íàçàä
Ýòîò êîììåíòàðèé áûë ïîìå÷åí êàê ñïàì ñêðûòü
Íå ñïàì

Here one more Fact this is a serbian song this stupid serb fasist sing about destroying Mosques.

watch?v=XXDTRPzCLQs

Thats the name of this video:

Momcilo - Dzamije lete
bosna501 1 ãîä íàçàä
Ýòîò êîììåíòàðèé áûë ïîìå÷åí êàê ñïàì ñêðûòü
Íå ñïàì

The War in Bosnia is end but serbian terror is not stoped.

Here a video from 2001 in Banja Luka on this day will beginn rebuilding the destroyed mosque and after 6 years of freedom serbs terroriesied on this day singing cetnik fasism genocid songs but look here:

watch?v=EjTwPCaMd28

Here a video who said that serbs must pay for all destroyed mosques in City Banja Luka only in this City are destroyed 16 Mosques.

watch?v=S3x1qAqviG0
bosna501 1 ãîä íàçàä
Ýòîò êîììåíòàðèé áûë ïîìå÷åí êàê ñïàì ñêðûòü
Íå ñïàì

Here a proove of serbian barbar agression on neighbourgs and religions

they have systematly destroyed all religious objects.

Look this video:

Destroyed and damaged mosques in Bosnia during 1992-1995
bosna501 1 ãîä íàçàä
Ýòîò êîììåíòàðèé áûë ïîìå÷åí êàê ñïàì ñêðûòü
Íå ñïàì

Serbs have destroyed all bosnian mosques and katolik chruches

here i show you a video direkt from war in

5:10 Min the bosnian soldier said We do not interfere with the church, but the mosque, we are building new.

watch?v=ICHoNlIGlbg

This is the reality of bosnianwar we bosnians fight for freedom and the serbs fight because they hate all what is not serb they will greatserbia and accept not other people but the bosnians have fucked the serbs without weapons
bosna501 1 ãîä íàçàä
Ýòîò êîììåíòàðèé áûë ïîìå÷åí êàê ñïàì ñêðûòü
Íå ñïàì

Serbs destroyed 614 Mosques, 218 mesjias and 500 other muslim objekts

and the serbs destroyed hounderts of catolik churches.
bosna501 1 ãîä íàçàä

-- This is not  church in Kosovo this is church in Bosnia and Hercegovina after USA intervention 1995 ,,,

USA rot in HELL ...
aviomaster 1 ãîä íàçàä

hahahah 100% propaganda this is not in kosovo is in bosnia

fuck you re malaka idiot people
AIGLE2TETE 1 ãîä íàçàä
Êîììåíòàðèé óäàëåí
Bourimiri 11 ìåñ. íàçàä

Turkalbanians will pay for all these crimes they have committed...

In a few years, they won't have the favour of Americans...

Then there will be no mercy...
superouaou 1 ãîä íàçàä

small dicks trained by small brains albanians love the yankees without slobo slaughter you all!! your blasphemie is normal for animals its not a surprise !!all the world knows that you are not a human race but a mix of camels and pigs
Kerasounta 1 ãîä íàçàä
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Bourimiri 1 ãîä íàçàä

lol kjo video nnouk eshte ne kosovo eshte bere ne bosnie lol car rrenash pfffff ede ti bourimiri keto degjon tia shife gliuhen nouk eshte ne shqip pa pa pa c'far propagande oh c'far idiotash se jane !!!!
AIGLE2TETE 1 ãîä íàçàä
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AIGLE2TETE 11 ìåñ. íàçàä
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AIGLE2TETE 11 ìåñ. íàçàä

This church is older than America they do not have respect for anything American and Albanian terrorist!
Ic3BoXxX 1 ãîä íàçàä 2

ooh you gay grekk shit, those people in this video are not Albanian, the are not talking

Albanian either, so get a life. p.s. stop exporting HIV gaypeople
StreetKingNr1 1 ãîä íàçàä

And what are them if not albanians? Come on u are hilarious. Admitt it, u are barbarians and complexed against christianity.

As for gay Greece, How u feel that a ''Gay state'' (as u think we are) rule you, rule ur economy and holds epir? Kinda Fucked up hey?
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Johnny Hallyday Pardon


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4rkztknLaI

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Ñïàñèáî ÍÀÒÎ - War - help children in Kosovo


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9c_TP8sWXI

 

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Espoirs au KOSOVO - íåäîâîëüíûõ íå âèäíî


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkFRFAr4spA

 

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íà ÷óæáèíó - Ελληνική Μετανάστευση-Greek Immigration - íà ÷óæáèíå

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Âîñêðåñåíüå, 27 Ôåâðàëÿ 2011 ã. 04:40 + â öèòàòíèê

 Ελληνική Μετανάστευση-Greek Immigration


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXIygjH3ru4

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Ñóááîòà, 26 Ôåâðàëÿ 2011 ã. 03:55 + â öèòàòíèê
Ýòî öèòàòà ñîîáùåíèÿ gold-a [Ïðî÷èòàòü öåëèêîì +  ñâîé öèòàòíèê èëè ñîîáùåñòâî!]

Åå çâàëè Îôðà Õàçà…

 




 

 

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…Òåëü-Àâèâ, Èçðàèëü, 23 ôåâðàëÿ 2000 ãîäà, îêîëî âîñüìè âå÷åðà. Çàìäèðåêòîðà êëèíèêè «Øåáà» âûøåë ê íàïðÿæåííî îæèäàâøåé ó âõîäà òîëïå ëþäåé. «Ê íàøåìó âñåîáùåìó ñîæàëåíèþ ÿ äîëæåí ñîîáùèòü î ñìåðòè Îôðû Õàçû…» Áîëåå ñòà ÷åëîâåê îäíîâðåìåííî èçäàëè ãîðåñòíûé ñòîí, êòî-òî íà÷àë ðûäàòü… Ïî÷òè äâå íåäåëè, â òå÷åíèå êîòîðûõ íå òîëüêî âåñü Èçðàèëü, íî è òûñÿ÷è ïîêëîííèêîâ ïåâèöû â äðóãèõ ñòðàíàõ, êàæäîå óòðî ïðîñûïàëèñü ñ ìûñëüþ: «Êàê ñåáÿ ÷óâñòâóåò Îôðà?», çàâåðøèëèñü òðàãåäèåé. Òàëàíòëèâàÿ ïåâèöà ñ óíèêàëüíûì ãîëîñîì, ëþáèìèöà âñåõ ôýíîâ ýòíî-ìóçûêè ïî âñåé ïëàíåòå, îñòàâèëà ýòîò ìèð. Åé áûëî âñåãî ñîðîê äâà ãîäà…

 

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Modern Sculptures - Ecological Art - îò ïðîñâåòë¸ííîãî Ãðåêà

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Ñóááîòà, 26 Ôåâðàëÿ 2011 ã. 03:38 + â öèòàòíèê

 Modern Sculptures


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haC425XHjKY

 - òåíè Àïîêàëèïñèñà, ïîèñê è ïîâåðõíîñòíûå âåùè ñ îñòàòî÷íûìè ýëåìåíòàìè ÷åëîâå÷íîñòè.

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Áåçâðåäíî äëÿ Äóøè - âíèìàíèå îò òåëà è óìà ïåðåõîäèò íà ïðèðîäó

Ecological Art


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78hZaW8XyrQ

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Artworks by clay-sculpture - Ñèìâîëè÷åñêè è ñåðü¸çíî - â íàøå âðåìÿ ñëîæíî íàéòè àíàëîãè

http://www.liveinternet.ru/users/paul_v_lashkevich/post153636165/

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Artworks by clay-sculpture - Ñèìâîëè÷åñêè è ñåðü¸çíî - â íàøå âðåìÿ ñëîæíî íàéòè àíàëîãè

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Ñóááîòà, 26 Ôåâðàëÿ 2011 ã. 03:17 + â öèòàòíèê

 Artworks by clay-sculpture


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sr7gM2vzryM

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Ìóçûêà ñîîòâåòñòâóåò âèäåî, êàê - áóäòî Äóøà îêóíóëàñü â Âå÷íîñòü è âðåìåíè áåã íå ìîæåò ïîìåøàòü. 

Ñìîòðèòå âìåñòå ñ äåòüìè. Èíòåðåñíî, ÷òî îíè èñïûòûâàþò è êàê ïðîÿâÿò ÷óâñòâà. Êîìïüþòåð ìîæåò âîñïðîèçâîäèòü ïîäîáíûå âèäåî è íå ïðèíåñ¸ò âðåäà ÷åëîâåêó ëþáîãî âîçðàñòà.

Êàääàôè è Ìó - áàðàê è Î - áàìà è áëèæå æèâóùèå íå ðàññêàæóò è íå ïîêàæóò íè÷åãî ïîõîæåãî.

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Äëÿ ñðàâíåíèÿ:

Modern Sculptures - îò ïðîñâåòë¸ííîãî Ãðåêà

http://www.liveinternet.ru/users/paul_v_lashkevich/post153638485/

 

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 Äåâÿòü ðåñïåêòàáåëüíûõ ïðåñòóïíèêîâ óïðàâëÿþò ìèðîì

26.02.2011 11:57 Ñòàòüÿ ¹21087

 áëèæàéøèå ãîäû ìèðó ãðîçèò âîéíà çà ðåñóðñû. ×òîáû èçáåæàòü êàòàñòðîôû, íóæåí ôóíäàìåíòàëüíûé ñëîì ïîòðåáèòåëüñêîé ýòèêè ïîâåäåíèÿ. Ïðè ýòîì ôèíàíñîâûå ýëèòû, ñêîðåå âñåãî, çàõîòÿò ðåøèòü âñå ïðîáëåìû ïî ñöåíàðèþ, îáêàòàííîìó 11 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2001 ãîäà. ×òî æäåò Ðîññèþ, Åâðîïó, ÑØÀ è Êèòàé â áëèæàéøåì áóäóùåì – «Ðîñáàëòó» ðàññêàçàë äåïóòàò Åâðîïàðëàìåíòà, àíòèãëîáàëèñò Äæóëüåòòî Êüåçà, êîòîðûé ïðèåõàë â Êðûì ïî ïðèãëàøåíèþ ìåæäóíàðîäíîãî ìåäèà-êëóáà «Ôîðìàò À3».


Äæóëüåòòî Êüåçà Ôîòî epochtimes.ru

 

- Ìû íàõîäèìñÿ â íà÷àëå ïåðåõîäíîãî ïåðèîäà, êîòîðûé íå èìååò ïðåöåäåíòîâ â èñòîðèè. Îí ìîã íàñòóïèòü åù¸ äåñÿòü ëåò íàçàä, íî ÑØÀ â 2001 ãîäó ñîáûòèÿìè 11-ãî ñåíòÿáðÿ îòëîæèëè êðèçèñ íà 7 ëåò. Îòëîæèëè – íî íå îòìåíèëè. È â 2008 ãîäó îí âåðíóëñÿ. Êîìó ýòà ýïîõà áóäåò âûãîäíà – ñêàçàòü ñëîæíî, íî óæå ÿñíî, ÷òî èñòîðèÿ ïîñëåäíèõ òðåõ âåêîâ ïîäõîäèò ê êîíöó. Ñåãîäíÿ ÿñíî, ÷òî íåâîçìîæíî ðàçâèòèå âíóòðè çàìêíóòîé ñèñòåìû ðåñóðñîâ – ìèð äîñòèã ïðåäåëîâ ðàçâèòèÿ. Âñå, êòî ãîâîðÿò, ÷òî ïðåæíÿÿ ñèñòåìà ñîõðàíèòñÿ — âðóò. Óãîëü, íåôòü, äàæå óðàí – âñå ðåñóðñû ïëàíåòû ïî÷òè èñ÷åðïàíû, è ëèøü âîïðîñ âðåìåíè, êîãäà îíè îêîí÷àòåëüíî çàêîí÷àòñÿ. Âñå íàøè ðåàëèè, âñ¸, ê ÷åìó ìû ïðèâûêëè – áóäåò ìåíÿòüñÿ. Öèâèëèçàöèÿ äåíåã óéäåò.

- Íå ðàíî ëè âû åå õîðîíèòå, ã-í Êüåçà? Êðèòèêè ñîâðåìåííîãî îáùåñòâà íåñêîëüêî ïðåóâåëè÷èâàþò ìàñøòàáû êðèçèñà, âàì íå êàæåòñÿ?

- Íåò, ýòî äåéñòâèòåëüíî ãëîáàëüíûé êðèçèñ.  òîì ÷èñëå, êðèçèñ ýíåðãåòè÷åñêèé. Äàæå âîäû ìû ñåãîäíÿ èñïîëüçóåì áîëüøå, ÷åì ïðèðîäà ñïîñîáíà íàì äàòü. È ÷òî áóäåò, êîãäà 300 ìèëëèîíîâ ÷åëîâåê â òå÷åíèå ñëåäóþùèõ äåñÿòè ëåò áóäóò èñïûòûâàòü íåõâàòêó ýòîãî ðåñóðñà? Ìû ïðîèçâîäèì îòõîäû ñ òàêîé âíóòðåííåé ñòðóêòóðîé, êîòîðûå íå ìîãóò áûòü ïåðåðàáîòàíû â ïðèíöèïå. Ìû èçìåíèëè êóðñ ñàìîé ïðèðîäû.

- Îá ýêîëîãèè ãîâîðÿò ìíîãèå. Ïðàâèòåëüñòâà òðàòÿò íà íåå îãðîìíûå ñóììû, íàñåëåíèå ãîëîñóåò çà ýêîëîãè÷åñêèå ïðîãðàììû òåõ èëè èíûõ ïàðòèé…

- Íóæíî ïîíÿòü, ÷òî ïðåæíÿÿ äåìîêðàòèÿ óæå óìèðàåò.  Åâðîïå ïîëîâèíà íàñåëåíèÿ íå õîäèò íà âûáîðû – è âîâñå íå èç-çà ñâîåé àïîëèòè÷íîñòè. Îãðîìíîìó ÷èñëó ëþäåé íå õâàòàåò ïðåäñòàâèòåëüñòâà èõ èíòåðåñîâ âî âëàñòè. ß âîâñå íå ïðîòèâ ïàðëàìåíòîâ, ìåñòíûõ ñîâåòîâ è ò.ä. Ïðîñòî íóæíî ñîçäàâàòü íîâóþ ñèñòåìó ïðåäñòàâèòåëüñòâà, íîâûå ïàðòèè è äâèæåíèÿ. È ýòî äâèæåíèå äîëæíî èäòè ñíèçó.

- Ïîä êàêèì ôëàãîì?

- Ïîä ôëàãîì ñàìîîãðàíè÷åíèÿ. Ñåãîäíÿ íóæíî íà÷èíàòü ñåáÿ îãðàíè÷èâàòü, ìåíÿòü ñåáÿ è ñâîé îáðàç æèçíè. Íóæíà êóëüòóðíàÿ, îðãàíèçàöèîííàÿ, ïîëèòè÷åñêàÿ ðåâîëþöèÿ, íóæíî óìåíüøàòü çàòðàòû ýíåðãèè.

- Âû ïîëàãàåòå, â ìèðå íàáåðåòñÿ äîñòàòî÷íî ëþäåé, êîòîðûå ïî äîáðîé âîëå ãîòîâû ñåáÿ îãðàíè÷èâàòü?  ìèðå, áîëüøàÿ ÷àñòü êîòîðîãî ýëåìåíòàðíî íåäîåäàåò?

- Ðå÷ü íå î ãîëîäàþùèõ. Íî äàæå òå, êòî ìîã áû ñåáÿ îãðàíè÷èòü, íå íà÷èíàþò îá ýòîì äóìàòü. Ïîòîìó ÷òî íàìè ìàíèïóëèðóþò, íàñ îáîëâàíèâàþò! Ëþäåé ïðåâðàòèëè â èíñòðóìåíòû ïîêóïêè. Ìîçãè àáñîëþòíîãî áîëüøèíñòâà êîíòðîëèðóþòñÿ. Ìû æèâåì äëÿ ðûíêà, êîãäà ðàáîòàåì è êîãäà îòäûõàåì. Èìåííî îí äèêòóåò íàì íàøè äåéñòâèÿ. Ìû íå ñâîáîäíûå ëþäè. Æóðíàëèñòû äîëæíû èíôîðìèðîâàòü îá ýòîì ëþäåé. Íî ÑÌÈ îá ýòîì ìîë÷àò. Òåëåâèäåíèå 24 ÷àñà ãîâîðèò íàì, ÷òî íàäî ïîêóïàòü âåùè, ÷òî íàøà øêàëà öåííîñòåé – ýòî ïîêóïàòåëüíàÿ ñïîñîáíîñòü. Ðåàëüíî â ñîâðåìåííîì òåëåâèäåíèè íåïîñðåäñòâåííî èíôîðìàöèè íå áîëåå 8%. Âñå îñòàëüíîå ðåêëàìà è ðàçâëå÷åíèå. È ôîðìèðóþò ÷åëîâåêà â èòîãå ýòè ñàìûå 92%.

- Íó, ýòî åñòåñòâåííî, âåäü òåëåâèäåíèå ñóùåñòâóåò çà ñ÷åò ðåêëàìû. Êòî áóäåò ñîäåðæàòü ÒÂ, åñëè îíî ïåðåñòàíåò ïðîäàâàòü? ×òî âû ïðåäëàãàåòå?

- Äëÿ íà÷àëà ÿ íàöèîíàëèçèðîâàë áû ÑÌÈ. 50 ëåò íàçàä ëè÷íîñòü ÷åëîâåêà ôîðìèðîâàëàñü â ñåìüå, øêîëå, èíîãäà – â öåðêâè. Ñåãîäíÿ íà 90% ìûøëåíèå ìîëîäûõ ëþäåé ôîðìèðóåòñÿ òåëåâèäåíèåì. Ò ñòàëî ñàìîé âàæíîé êóëüòóðíîé ñòðóêòóðîé ïî âñåìó ìèðó, îò ÑØÀ äî Èíäèè è Êèòàÿ. Ñèñòåìà ÑÌÈ – ýòî ôóíäàìåíòàëüíûå ïðàâà ëþäåé, è îíè íå ìîãóò áûòü ïðèâàòèçèðîâàíû. Èõ íàäî âîçâðàùàòü ãîñóäàðñòâó è íàðîäó. Ðàññêàçàòü î ñèòóàöèè íà ïëàíåòå ëþäÿì áåç ó÷àñòèÿ òåëåêàíàëîâ íåâîçìîæíî. À âìåñòî ýòîãî òåëåâèçîð óãîâàðèâàåò íàñ êóïèòü åù¸ îäíó ìàøèíó. Òî÷íî òàê æå ÿ óâåðåí, ÷òî íàäî íàöèîíàëèçèðîâàòü âñå áàíêè, âûïóñêàþùèå äåíüãè. Ìû òåðÿåì êîíòðîëü íàä äåíüãàìè.

- «Ìû» — ýòî êòî?

- Ãîñóäàðñòâà, ãðàæäàíå ãîñóäàðñòâ.  ñåðåäèíå äåêàáðÿ «Íüþ-Éîðê Òàéìñ» îïóáëèêîâàëà íà ïåðâîé ïîëîñå ñòàòüþ – î òîì, ÷òî êàæäûé ìåñÿö â êàêîì-íèáóäü ðåñòîðàíå íà Óîëë-Ñòðèò ñîáèðàþòñÿ ðóêîâîäèòåëè 9 ìèðîâûõ áàíêîâ: «Ãîëäìàí Ñàêñ», UBS, «Áýíê îô Àìåðèêà», «Äîé÷å áàíê» è òîìó ïîäîáíûõ. Êàæäûé ìåñÿö ýòè äåâÿòü ÷åëîâåê ïðèíèìàþò ðåøåíèÿ, êàñàþùèåñÿ øåñòè ìèëëèàðäîâ ÷åëîâåê: êàêèì áóäåò ïðîöåíò áåçðàáîòèöû â ìèðå, ñêîëüêî ëþäåé óìðóò îò ãîëîäà, ñêîëüêî ïðàâèòåëüñòâ áóäåò ñâåðãíóòî, ñêîëüêî ìèíèñòðîâ áóäåò êóïëåíî è òàê äàëåå. Ýòî ðåñïåêòàáåëüíûå ïðåñòóïíèêè, íî îíè âëèÿòåëüíåå ëþáîãî ìèðîâîãî ïîëèòè÷åñêîãî ëèäåðà. Ó íèõ ðåàëüíàÿ âëàñòü – âëàñòü äåíåã.

- È âñå æå ñåãîäíÿ íåò îñíîâàíèé äóìàòü, ÷òî ðîñò ïðîèçâîäñòâà è ïîòðåáëåíèÿ â îáîçðèìîì áóäóùåì ïðåêðàòèòñÿ…

- Êîíå÷íî. Ìàëî òîãî, åñëè ìèëëèàðä êèòàéöåâ íà÷íóò åñòü ìÿñî è ïèòü ìîëîêî òàê, êàê ýòî äåëàåì ìû – ÷åðåç äåñÿòü ëåò íàì âñåì íå îñòàíåòñÿ ìåñòà íà ýòîé ïëàíåòå. À êîãäà íå áóäåò ìåñòà – ÷òî ýòî áóäåò îçíà÷àòü? Åù¸ â 1998 ãîäó â ÑØÀ áûë îïóáëèêîâàí äîêóìåíò – «Project for the new American century».  ýòîì äîêóìåíòå ïðîðî÷åñêè íàïèñàëè, ÷òî â 2017 ãîäó Êèòàé ñòàíåò ñàìîé áîëüøîé îïàñíîñòüþ äëÿ áåçîïàñíîñòè ÑØÀ. Âñå ñáûâàåòñÿ. Ìû æèâåì â 2011 ãîäó – åù¸ îñòàëîñü 6 ëåò.

- Íî ó Åâðîïû òîæå ìíîãî ñëàáûõ ìåñò. Íàñåëåíèå ñòàðååò, âëàñòè âûíóæäåíû çàâîçèòü ìèãðàíòîâ, à òå – îñîáåííî ìóñóëüìàíå — íå õîòÿò àññèìèëèðîâàòüñÿ, íàïðÿæåíèå ðàñòåò… Ìåðêåëü è Ñàðêîçè óæå ïðèçíàëè, ÷òî ïîëèòèêà ìóëüòèêóëüòóðàëèçìà ïðîâàëèëàñü.

- ß íå âåðþ â ïðîâàë ìóëüòèêóëüòóðàëèçìà. «Îïàñíîñòü èñëàìñêîãî ôóíäàìåíòàëèçìà» – ýòî èçîáðåòåíèå ÑØÀ, ñòàðò êîòîðîìó áûë äàí 11 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2001 ãîäà. Ìû ñàìè ñîçäàëè ýòó èäåþ îá ýêñïîðòå äåìîêðàòèè. Èðàê è Àôãàíèñòàí äîêàçàëè íåæèçíåñïîñîáíîñòü ýòîé ñõåìû. Ðàâíî êàê è îøèáî÷íîñòü ìíåíèÿ Çàïàäà, ÷òî âñå íàðîäû è ñòðàíû äîëæíû ïðîõîäèòü òîò æå ñàìûé ïóòü, ÷òî è îíè.

Èñëàìñêèé ìèð æèâåò â îäíîì âåêå. Ìû – â äðóãîì. Ýòî èõ âèíà? Íåò, ïðîñòî ÷óâñòâî âðåìåíè è ñèòóàöèè ñîâåðøåííî èíûå. Ïðè ýòîì èìåííî ìû ñîçäàëè ãëîáàëèçàöèþ, ìû çàõâàòèëè èõ ðåñóðñû.

Ñåãîäíÿ î÷åâèäíî, ÷òî Åâðîïå îáúåêòèâíî íóæíû 20 ìèëëèîíîâ ìèãðàíòîâ, à ìû íå â ñîñòîÿíèè èõ âîñïðèíèìàòü.  èòîãå îíè ïðèõîäÿò áåç âñÿêîé âîçìîæíîñòè æèòü íîðìàëüíî. Ïîéìèòå, ãëîáàëèçàöèÿ – ýòî äâèæåíèå ëþäåé, à, çíà÷èò, è êóëüòóð.

- Âû íå ðàçäåëÿåòå îïàñåíèé, ÷òî Åâðîïà ðàñòâîðèòñÿ â ïîòîêå ìèãðàíòîâ?

- ß ñ÷èòàþ, ÷òî Åâðîïà êàê ïîëèòè÷åñêèé è êóëüòóðíûé ôåíîìåí áóäåò ñóùåñòâîâàòü è äàëüøå. Êîíå÷íî, ïðîöåññû, ïðîèñõîäÿùèå íà êîíòèíåíòå, î÷åíü ñëîæíû. Âåäü äî ñèõ ïîð â ìèðå íå áûëî ïðåöåäåíòîâ, ÷òîáû 27 ñòðàí îáúåäèíÿëèñü ìèðíûì ïóòåì. Ïðè ýòîì îäíà ñåãîäíÿ ïîëîâèíà ÅÑ – «åâðîïåéñêàÿ», à âòîðàÿ ïîëîâèíà – «àìåðèêàíñêàÿ» (ðå÷ü èäåò î Çàïàäíîé è Âîñòî÷íîé Åâðîïå – ïðèì. ðåä.). Íûíåøíèé êðèçèñ ðåãèîíà – ýòî ñàìûé ñëîæíûé ìîìåíò åãî èñòîðèè.

Êñòàòè, ÿ äóìàþ, ÷òî Ðîññèÿ ìîãëà áû èãðàòü áîëüøóþ ðîëü â Åâðîïå. Áîëåå òîãî, íåîáõîäèìî îáúåäèíåíèå óñèëèé ýòèõ äâóõ ñèë, èíòåãðàöèÿ èíòåðåñîâ. Åâðîïà ñåãîäíÿ íèêîìó íå óãðîæàåò. Ðîññèÿ òàêæå íå ñòàíåò íèêîìó óãðîæàòü, êîãäà íàñòóïèò äåôèöèò ðåñóðñîâ – õîòÿ áû ïîòîìó, ÷òî îíà èìååò âñå ýòè ðåñóðñû âíóòðè ñòðàíû. È âìåñòå Åâðîïà è Ðîññèÿ ìîãëè áû èãðàòü îãðîìíóþ óñïîêîèòåëüíóþ ðîëü äëÿ ñèòóàöèè âî âñåì ìèðå. Ïîêà æå âñåõ «óñïîêàèâàþò» ÑØÀ.

- Âû îêîëî 20 ëåò ïðîðàáîòàëè â Ìîñêâå ðåïîðòåðîì ãàçåò l'Unita è La Stampa. Ðîññèÿ ñåãîäíÿ ïåðåæèâàåò íå ñàìûå ïðîñòûå âðåìåíà â ñâîåé èñòîðèè. Êóäà, ïî-âàøåìó, îíà äðåéôóåò?

- Òðóäíî ñêàçàòü. ß ñàì íå äîñòàòî÷íî ïîíèìàþ, ÷òî ïðîèñõîäèò. ß ñ îäíîé ñòîðîíû âèæó, ÷òî ó Ðîññèè åñòü îãðîìíûå âîçìîæíîñòè âëèÿòü íà ìåæäóíàðîäíóþ æèçíü. Ñ äðóãîé ñòîðîíû, ÿ, ê ñîæàëåíèþ, íàáëþäàþ, ÷òî Ðîññèÿ ïîêà ïðîäîëæàåò äåéñòâîâàòü ïî-ñòàðîìó – çàùèùàÿ òîëüêî ñåáÿ. Êàê, êñòàòè, îíà è âîñïðèíèìàåòñÿ äî ñèõ ïîð â îáùåñòâåííîì ìíåíèè íà Çàïàäå. Íèêîãäà çà ïîñëåäíèå ãîäû ÿ íå ñëûøàë ìàñøòàáíûõ èäåé îò Ðîññèè îá óñòðîéñòâå ìèðà. ß ïðèâåäó ïðèìåð – àìåðèêàíñêàÿ èìïåðèÿ áûëà ñîçäàíà ïîòîìó, ÷òî àìåðèêàíöû ñìîãëè ïîñëàòü ìèðó ìåññåäæ: âñ¸, ÷òî â èõ èíòåðåñàõ – îòâå÷àåò èíòåðåñàì âñåãî ìèðà. Îíè î÷åíü õîðîøî ðàáîòàëè íàä èäååé ñòðàíû, êîòîðàÿ ãîâîðèò çà âñåõ.

Òàê ÷òî åñëè Ðîññèÿ ïðîäîëæèò äàâàòü ñèãíàëû î ñâîåé ñèëå, ïðè ýòîì âåäÿ ðå÷ü î çàùèòå òîëüêî ñåáÿ ñàìîé – ýòî ìàëî êîìó áóäåò èíòåðåñíî. Ýòî íå áóäåò èíòåðåñíî òîé æå Åâðîïå è â ýòîì æå – ñàìûé ñëàáûé ìîìåíò ïîëèòèêè âàøåé ñòðàíû. Õîòèòå ïðåòåíäîâàòü íà ìèðîâîå ãîñïîäñòâî â õîðîøåì ñìûñëå ñëîâà, õîòèòå èìåòü âëèÿíèå â òîé ïåðåõîäíîé ñèòóàöèè, â êîòîðîé âåñü ìèð îêàçàëñÿ ñåãîäíÿ – ìåíÿéòåñü. Íóæíî âûõîäèòü ñ ìåññåäæàìè îá îáúåäèíåíèè, îá îãðàíè÷åíèè ïîòðåáëåíèÿ ðåñóðñîâ – ÷òîáû èõ õâàòàëî âñåì. Íà ýòîì ìîæíî ñòðîèòü áîëüøóþ ìèðîâóþ ïîëèòèêó.

- Êàê ìîæåò ïðîïîâåäîâàòü ñàìîîãðàíè÷åíèå Ðîññèÿ, ÷åé ïðàâÿùèé êëàññ äåìîíñòðèðóåò ìèðó ñàìîå ðàçíóçäàííîå ïîòðåáèòåëüñòâî? Ðàçâå âû íå âèäèòå, ÷òî ýòîé ñòðàíîé ðóêîâîäÿò ðåâíîñòíûå àäåïòû ìèðîóñòðîéñòâà, ñ êîòîðûì âû ïðèçûâàåòå ïîêîí÷èòü?

- Ìíå êàæåòñÿ, ÷òî âàøè ðóêîâîäèòåëè ýòó íîâóþ ñèòóàöèþ åù¸ íå îñîçíàëè. Ðîññèéñêîå ðóêîâîäñòâî ñåãîäíÿ ìíîãî âðåìåíè óäåëÿåò Àìåðèêå è ìàëî – òîìó æå Êèòàþ. Íî 21-é âåê íå áóäåò âåêîì Àìåðèêè. È áåññìûñëåííî äëÿ Ðîññèè ñåãîäíÿ ïîêóïàòü áèëåòû íà òîíóùèé êîðàáëü. Èãðàòü íóæíî ïî ðàçíûì íàïðàâëåíèÿì.

- ×òî, íà âàø âçãëÿä, æäåò â áëèæàéøåì áóäóùåì ðîññèéñêî-óêðàèíñêèå îòíîøåíèÿ?

- Îíè íîðìàëèçóþòñÿ. Áûë ïåðèîä Âèêòîðà Þùåíêî, êîãäà áûëî ñèëüíûì âëèÿíèå ÑØÀ è ñòðåìëåíèå âêëþ÷èòü ñòðàíó â ñâîþ îðáèòó. Ðîêîâûå îøèáêè. Ñåé÷àñ, êîãäà ñòðàíèöà «îðàíæåâîé ðåâîëþöèè» ïåðåâåðíóòà, íóæíî ñîçäàòü íîðìàëüíûå îòíîøåíèÿ ìåæäó ñóâåðåííîé, íåçàâèñèìîé, íåéòðàëüíîé Óêðàèíîé, Ðîññèåé è Åâðîïîé. Íî íóæíî, ÷òîáû ïîëèòè÷åñêèå ýëèòû Óêðàèíû çíàëè, ÷òî îíè íå ïîä÷èíåíû íèêîìó.

- Ïîõîæå, îíè ýòî íà÷èíàþò îñîçíàâàòü. Íî ýòî íå îòìåíÿåò æåëàíèÿ óêðàèíñêèõ ýëèò èíòåãðèðîâàòüñÿ â Åâðîïó – õîòÿ áû ïåðñîíàëüíî. À Åâðîïå Óêðàèíà íóæíà?

- Åñëè ÷åñòíî, òî Åâðîïå áîëüøå íóæíà Ðîññèÿ. Åâðîïà íà ñëîâàõ è, áûòü ìîæåò, äàæå ôèíàíñîâî áóäåò ïîääåðæèâàòü Óêðàèíó, íî îíà ñåãîäíÿ íå ñìîæåò ïðîñòî «ïåðåâàðèòü» ýòó ñòðàíó. Åâðîïà äîëæíà ñåãîäíÿ äóìàòü î ñåáå, è áûëî áû îøèáêîé ñî ñòîðîíû Óêðàèíû æäàòü ìíîãîãî îò ÅÑ. Åñëè áû ÿ áûë ðóêîâîäèòåëåì Óêðàèíû – ÿ áû ñîçäàâàë ñâîå ñèëüíîå ãîñóäàðñòâî. Êñòàòè, ÿ ãîëîñîâàë ïðîòèâ âêëþ÷åíèÿ Òóðöèè â ÅÑ – ÿ çíàë, ÷òî Òóðöèÿ ñëèøêîì âåëèêà äëÿ íàñ. Íî ïîëèòèêó äîáðîñîñåäñòâà ñ ýòîé ñòðàíîé ìû ðàçâèâàòü ñìîæåì. Êàê è ñ Óêðàèíîé. Âîîáùå — Åâðîïà, Ðîññèÿ è Óêðàèíà ìîãëè áû èãðàòü áîëüøóþ îáùóþ èãðó.

- Ãëîáàëüíûé êðèçèñ òîëüêî íà÷àëñÿ. Êàêèìè èç íåãî âûéäóò Óêðàèíà è Ðîññèÿ?

- Ðîññèÿ íàõîäèòñÿ â îòíîñèòåëüíî áëàãîïîëó÷íîì ïîëîæåíèè, ïîòîìó ÷òî ó ýòîé ñòðàíû åñòü âñå íåîáõîäèìûå ðåñóðñû. Ó òîãî æå Êèòàÿ èõ íåò. Åâðîïà òîæå íå èìååò äîñòàòî÷íûõ ðåñóðñîâ. È â ýòîì òðóäíîì è äåëèêàòíîì ïåðåõîäíîì ïåðèîäå, êîòîðûé íàñòóïàåò èç-çà ãëîáàëüíîãî êðèçèñà, Ðîññèÿ áóäåò íàõîäèòüñÿ â î÷åíü õîðîøèõ óñëîâèÿõ. Ïîýòîìó îíà äîëæíà èñïîëüçîâàòü ýòó ñèòóàöèþ.

Óêðàèíà íå èìååò òàêèõ ðåñóðñîâ. Íî îíà, íàïðèìåð, ìîæåò èãðàòü áîëüøóþ ðîëü â ñîçäàíèè ñèñòåìû åâðîïåéñêîé áåçîïàñíîñòè. Íå íàäî æäàòü ïðåäëîæåíèé íè îò Ðîññèè, íè îò Åâðîïû. Íà ìåñòå óêðàèíñêîãî ïðåçèäåíòà ÿ áû ñîçäàë öåíòð, êîòîðûé áû çàíèìàëñÿ ýòèì íàïðàâëåíèåì. Çäåñü ìîæíî ñîçäàòü ìåæäóíàðîäíûé öåíòð èçó÷åíèÿ áåçîïàñíîñòè íîâîãî ìèðà. Íóæíî ïðîèçâîäèòü èäåè. Çàâòðà âåùè áóäóò ñòîèòü ìíîãî, íî èäåè áóäóò åù¸ äîðîæå.

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