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indian summer

Âîñêðåñåíüå, 24 Ñåíòÿáðÿ 2006 ã. 22:38 + â öèòàòíèê
Tysia âñå çàïèñè àâòîðà

"indian summer" - áàáüå ëåòî. Î÷åíü óäèâèëàñü îáíàðóæèâ òàêîé ïåðåâîä â ñëîâàðå. Êàê-òî ðàíüøå íå äóìàëà î òîì, êàê ïåðåâåñòè "áàáüå ëåòî". À âîò ñåãîäíÿ ïîíàäîáèëîñü... Èíòåðåñíî, ïî÷åìó "indian"?

Íèêòî íå çíàêîì ñ ýòèìîëîãèåé ýòîãî âûðàæåíèÿ? =)

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RiddleS   îáðàòèòüñÿ ïî èìåíè Âîñêðåñåíüå, 24 Ñåíòÿáðÿ 2006 ã. 23:02 (ññûëêà)
ñ ýòèìîëîãèåé íå çíàêîìà, íî òîæå î÷åíü èíòåðåñóþñü - áóêâàëüíî íåäàâíî âñòðåòèëà ñðåäè ñëîâ â òåìå ïîãîäà =)) ïðåïîä ñêàçàë, ÷òî íàâåðíî, òàê êàê â Èíäèè òåïëî è, ÷òî ýòî àíàëîã Russan winter, òîëüêî ñ ëåòîì =)))
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Áàíäèòîñ   îáðàòèòüñÿ ïî èìåíè Âîñêðåñåíüå, 24 Ñåíòÿáðÿ 2006 ã. 23:20 (ññûëêà)
ÿ äóìàþ ÷åò ñ èíäåéöàìè ñâçÿçàíî. òî÷íî íå çíà
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pupunussi   îáðàòèòüñÿ ïî èìåíè Ïîíåäåëüíèê, 25 Ñåíòÿáðÿ 2006 ã. 00:17 (ññûëêà)
The term has been used for well over two centuries. The earliest known use was by French American writer St. John de Crevecoeur in rural New York in 1778. There are several theories as to its etymology:

* It may be so named because this was the traditional period where North American First Nations/Native American peoples would harvest their fall crops.

* In The Americans, The Colonial Experience, Daniel J. Boorstin speculates that the term originated from raids on European colonies by Indian war parties; these raids usually ended in autumn, hence the extension to summer-like weather was an "Indian" summer. Indeed, two of the three other known uses of the term "Indian summer" in the 18th century are from accounts kept by two Army officers leading retaliation expeditions against Indians for raids on settlers in Ohio and Indiana (1790), and Pennsylvania (1794).[1]

* It could be so named because the phenomenon was more common in what were then North American Indian territories, as opposed to the Eastern seaboard.

* It may be of Asian Indian, rather than North American Indian, origin. H. E. Ware, an English writer, noted that ships at that time traversing the Indian Ocean loaded up their cargo the most during the "Indian Summer", or fair weather season. Several ships actually had an "I.S." on their hull at the load level thought safe during the Indian Summer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_summer
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Fisherman_nk   îáðàòèòüñÿ ïî èìåíè Re: indian summer Ïîíåäåëüíèê, 25 Ñåíòÿáðÿ 2006 ã. 01:09 (ññûëêà)
Ïðèêîëüíî.
Íå çíàêîì.
ß äóìàþ îòëè÷àåòñÿ îò ðóññêîãî çíà÷åíèå ñåãî âûðàæåíèÿ.
Ëèíãâî 11 òîæ ñàìîå âûäàåò: áàáüå ëåòî ( òåïëûå äíè â íà÷àëå îñåíè) Indian summer

À âîò îáðàòíûé ïåðåâîä äàåò è äðóãîå ïîíìèàíå: Indian summer

Áëàãîïðèÿòíûé ïåðèîä.  ðóññêîì áàáüå ëåòî â òàêîì çíà÷åíèè íå óïîòðåáëÿåòñÿ.
 êîëîíêàõ èãðàåò: Metallica - 013 Harvester Of Sorrow

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Mezzanotte   îáðàòèòüñÿ ïî èìåíè Ïîíåäåëüíèê, 25 Ñåíòÿáðÿ 2006 ã. 13:22 (ññûëêà)
"spell of warm weather after the first frost," first recorded 1778, Amer.Eng., perhaps so called because it was first noted in regions inhabited by Indians, or because the Indians first described it to the Europeans. No evidence connects it with the color of fall leaves or a season of Indian attacks on settlements. It is the Amer.Eng. version of British All-Hallows summer, Fr. été de la Saint-Martin (feast day Nov. 11), etc. Also colloquial was St. Luke's summer (or little summer), period of warm weather occurring about St. Luke's day (Oct. 18). (from http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=Indian+summer)
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Fisherman_nk   îáðàòèòüñÿ ïî èìåíè Re: Îòâåò â Languages; indian summer Âòîðíèê, 26 Ñåíòÿáðÿ 2006 ã. 01:53 (ññûëêà)
Èñõîäíîå ñîîáùåíèå Mezzanotte: "spell of warm weather after the first frost," first recorded 1778, Amer.Eng., perhaps so called because it was first noted in regions inhabited by Indians, or because the Indians first described it to the Europeans....[/url])

Ñïàñèá!
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LI 5.09.15
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Mezzanotte   îáðàòèòüñÿ ïî èìåíè Ñðåäà, 27 Ñåíòÿáðÿ 2006 ã. 15:04 (ññûëêà)
Fisherman_nk, you're welcome:)
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