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Öèòàòà ñîîáùåíèÿ lj_marinni Òàéíû íåðóêîòâîðíûõ èçîáðàæåíèé Õðèñòà: ïëàùàíèöà è "âóàëè Âåðîíèêè".

Âóàëü Âåðîíèêè. 15-18 âåê.



Óæå ìíîãî ëåò èäóò ñïîðû âîêðóã Òóðèíñêîé ïëàùàíèöû.
Ïðè ýòîì ïî÷åìó-òî çàáûâàþò, ÷òî ïëàùàíèöà - íå åäèíñòâåííàÿ ðåëèêâèÿ, íà êîòîðîé èìååòñÿ íåðóêîòâîðíûé îáðàç.


Äðóãàÿ- ýòî "Âóàëü Âåðîíèêè" — íåðóêîòâîðíîå èçîáðàæåíèå Èèñóñà Õðèñòà, êîòîðîå, ïî ïðåäàíèþ, ïîÿâèëîñü íà ïëàòêå, êîòîðûé Âåðîíèêà äàëà Õðèñòó, êîãäà îí í¸ñ ñâîé êðåñò íà Ãîëãîôó, ÷òîáû îí âûòåð ëèöî.

Èçâåñòíû äâà "Ïëàòà Âåðîíèêè"- â ñîáîðå Ñâÿòîãî Ïåòðà â Âàòèêàíå è â öåðêâè â Ìàíîïåëëî, çà ïðèçíàíèå ïîäëèííîñòè îäíîãî èç íèõ èäåò íàñòîÿùàÿ âîéíà.



Åùå åñòü ïðåäàíèå î ïëàòå-ïîëîòåíöå, êîòîðûì Õðèñòîñ âûòèðàë ëèöî ÄÎ ãîëãîôû, ïîýòîìó òàì îí åùå áåç òåðíîâîãî âåíöà.


Ñâÿòîé Ìàíäèëèîí. Èêîíà èç Êàïåëëû Ñàíòà-Ìàòèëäà, Âàòèêàí. VI â. (?)


Öàðü Ýäåññû ïîñëàë õóäîæíèêà çàïå÷àòëåòü Õðèñòà, òîò óìûë ëèöî è âûòåðñÿ ïëàòîì- è íà íåì ïðîÿâèëîñü èçîáðàæåíèå:


Ýòîò ëèê âïîñëåäñòâèè áûë âûêóïëåí èç Ýäåññà èìïåðàòîðîì Êîíñòàíòèíîïîëÿ, íî
ðåëèêâèÿ áûëà ïîõèùåíà âî âðåìÿ ðàçãðàáëåíèÿ ãîðîäà â 1204 ãîäó, ïîñëå ÷åãî óòåðÿíà.

------------Ëèê èç Ìàíîïåëëî---------

Âòîðîé- "Ëèê èç Ìàíîïåëëî", îò òîæå íàçûâàåòñÿ "Âóàëü Âåðîíèêè", íî òàì íåò òåðíîâîãî âåíöà:


Volto Santo from Manoppello (Italia).


Íåðóêîòâîðíîñòü ýòèõ èçîáðàæåíèé ñâÿçûâàåò èõ ñ äðóãîé îáùåèçâåñòíîé ðåëèêâèåé — Òóðèíñêîé ïëàùàíèöåé:



Åå çàãàäêà íå ðàçãàäàíà äî ñèõ ïîð.
Êàê ïîÿâèëñÿ îòïå÷àòîê, êîãäà îí âîçíèê- ðàäèîóãëåðîäíûå àíàëèçû äàþò äàòó ãîðàçäî ïîçäíåå ñìåðòè Õðèñòà.

Ñàìà Êàòîëè÷åñêàÿ öåðêîâü îôèöèàëüíî íå ïðèçíà¸ò ïëàùàíèöó ïîäëèííîé, õîòÿ õðàíèò åå è ïî÷èòàåò.
À äàëüøå- ëè÷íîå äåëî ñàìèõ âåðóþùèõ.
Õîòèòå- âåðüòå â èñòèííîñòü, õîòèòå- íåò.

Ïîäðîáíåé ïðî íåðóêîòâîðíûå ëèêè ìîæíî ïî÷èòàòü-ÒÓÒ

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Ýòè íåðóêîòâîðíûå èçîáðàæåíèÿ ñòàëè ïåðâûìè èêîíàìè è äàëè íà÷àëî ìíîæåñòâó îáðàçîâ, ãäå ëèê èçîáðàæàåòñÿ íà ïëàòå:


Ñèìîí Óøàêîâ. Ñïàñ Íåðóêîòâîðíûé.
Ñïàñ íà óáðóñå (Ñâ. Ìàíäèëèîí).


Ïëàò ñ ëèêîì èíîãäà äåðæàò àíãåëû:



Ñïàñ Íåðóêîòâîðíûé â Ñïàññêîì ñîáîðå Âÿòêè


Parish church in Zweinitz in the community of Weitensfeld - Tympanum


The Mandylion from Jankowce, Historic Museum in Sanok, Poland



Ñïàñ íåðóêîòâîðíûé. ïîñëåäíÿÿ òðåòü 18 âåêà.


Monastery Ossiach - Celling-painting: Painted Dome with Angel with the Veil of Veronica - Painter:Josef Ferdinand Fromiller

------------Ïëàò Âåðîíèêè--------
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Kruiswegstaties, Westfalen, ca. 1530.

Ïî ïðåäàíèÿì, íåêàÿ æåíùèíà äàëà Õðèñòó ïëàòîê, êîãäà îí íåñ êðåñò íà Ãîëãîôó, ÷òîáû îí ìîã âûòåðåòü ïîò è êðîâü îò òåðíîâûõ èãë ñ ëèöà:


Alsace, Bas-Rhin, Strasbourg, Eglise Saint-Pierre-le-Vieux catholique, Choeur, Tableaux "La Passion du Christ" (1485), H.Lutzelmann?, J'esus portant la croix

Ëèê Èèñóñà çàïå÷àòëåëñÿ íà ïëàòêå, çäåñü âèäíî, êàê îí ïðîÿâëÿåòñÿ:


Jacopo Pontormo
Dekoration der Papstkapelle Leo X. in Santa Maria Novella in Florenz, L"unette, Szene: Hl. Veronika, Detail
Date 1515



Ýòà ðåëèêâèÿ õðàíèòñÿ â ñîáîðå ñâ. Ïåòðà â Ðèìå.
Íà ïëàòêå íà ïðîñâåò âèäíî èçîáðàæåíèå ëèöà Èèñóñà.

Òàê æå, êàê è íà ïëàùàíèöå-èçîáðàæåíèå áûëî íàíåñåíî íå êðàñêîé è íå êàêèìè-ëèáî èçâåñòíûìè îðãàíè÷åñêèìè ìàòåðèàëàìè.
Ó÷åíûå èññëåäóþò ýòè èçîáðàæåíèÿ äî ñèõ ïîð, íî òàéíà ïîêà íå ðàçãàäàíà.

Ïðè÷åì, Âàòèêàí îòêàçûâàåòñÿ ïðèçíàòü ïîäëèííîñòü õðàíÿùåéñÿ â îòäàëåííîì ìîíàñòûðå èòàëüÿíñêîé äåðåâíè Ìàíîïåëëî èêîíû "Âóàëü Âåðîíèêè".
Äåëî â òîì, ÷òî â ðàñïîðÿæåíèè Ñâÿòîãî Ïðåñòîëà íàõîäèòñÿ ñîáñòâåííàÿ ðåëèêâèÿ, ïðåòåíäóþùàÿ íà òî, ÷òîáû íàçûâàòüñÿ âóàëüþ ñâÿòîé Âåðîíèêè.

Åñëè âóàëü â Ìàíîïåëëî ïîäëèííàÿ, ýòî îçíà÷àåò, ÷òî äðóãàÿ âóàëü Âåðîíèêè, êîòîðàÿ õðàíèòñÿ â ñîáîðå Ñâÿòîãî Ïåòðà â Âàòèêàíå, íî êîòîðóþ âèäåëè âñåãî íåñêîëüêî ÷åëîâåê.

Ïëàò Âåðîíèêè èçîáðàæàåòñÿ íà ìíîãèõ êàðòèíàõ è ñêóëüïòóðàõ:


Ïåòð è Ïàâåë ñ ïëàòîì.


Family Group Adoring the Veil of Veronica, c. 1490, Austrian, oil on panel

Ðèìñêàÿ êàòîëè÷åñêàÿ öåðêîâü ïðè÷èñëèëà Âåðîíèêó ê ëèêó ñâÿòûõ, õîòÿ íåò äîñòîâåðíûõ ñâåäåíèé î òîì, ÷òî èñòîðèÿ ñ âóàëüþ äåéñòâèòåëüíî èìåëà ìåñòî. Ïî êðàéíåé ìåðå â Íîâîì Çàâåòå îá îïèñàííîì ñîáûòèè íåò óïîìèíàíèÿ.

Åñëè âåðèòü Âàòèêàíó, Âåðîíèêà äîëãî õðàíèëà âóàëü. Ãîâîðÿò, îíà âûëå÷èëà ñ åå ïîìîùüþ ðèìñêîãî èìïåðàòîðà Òèáåðèÿ, à çàòåì ïåðåäàëà åå Ïàïå Êëèìåíòèþ íà õðàíåíèå.
È ñ òåõ ïîð âóàëü õðàíèòñÿ â ñîáîðå Ñâÿòîãî Ïåòðà â Ðèìå.

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The veil of St. Veronica (Vera Icon).
Polski: Chusta 'sw. Weroniki (Vera Icon).
Date circa 1450


Saint Veronica’s Veil
Made in Italy
c. 1500
Bernardino di Bosio Zaganelli, Italian (active Romagna), c. 1470 – c. 1510
Oil on panel

--------Èíòåðåñíûå ôàêòû------
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Ïî îôèöèàëüíûì äàííûì Âàòèêàíà Ïëàòîê Âåðîíèêè - ñàìàÿ öåííàÿ ðåëèêâèÿ õðèñòèàíñòâà, äî ñèõ ïîð õðàíèòñÿ â Áàçèëèêå Ñâÿòîãî Ïåòðà.

 1628 ãîäó Ïàïà Óðáàí VIII èçäàåò çàïðåò è òîðæåñòâåííûå äåìîíñòðàöèè Âóàëè âåðóþùèì ïðåêðàùàþòñÿ.

Íî óâèäåòü åå ïðàêòè÷åñêè íåâîçìîæíî.

Âóàëü Âåðîíèêè âûíèìàåòñÿ èç êîëîííû íà âñåîáùåå îáîçðåíèå åäèíñòâåííûé ðàç â ãîäó - â ïÿòóþ âîñêðåñíóþ âå÷åðþ Âåëèêîãî Ïîñòà, íî âðåìÿ ïîêàçà êîðîòêî è ê òîìó æå, îíà äåìîíñòðèðóåòñÿ ñ âûñîêîé ëîäæèè Ñòîëïà Ñâÿòîé Âåðîíèêè.

Ïðèáëèçèòüñÿ ê ðåëèêâèè ðàçðåøàåòñÿ ëèøü êàíîíèêàì Áàçèëèêè Ñâÿòîãî Ïåòðà.



Ïëàò Âåðîíèêè, Äîìåíèêî Ôåòòè, 1620



St. Peter und Paul, In der Stelle, Bodman, Bodman-Ludwigshafen



Predella of the altarpiece in Sankt Peters Klosters kyrka in Lund, Skane, Sweden. Relieve of angels holding Veronica's veil


-------------Òðîìïëåé---------

Èçîáðàæåíèÿ "tromp l'oeil" áûëè î÷åíü ïîïóëÿðíû â 17 âåêå, åñòü íåñêîëüêî ïëàòîâ Âåðîíèêè â ýòîé òåõíèêå:



Philippe de Champaigne (Bruxelles 1602-Parigi 1674), Velo della Veronica, ante 1654

------Francisco de Zurbar'an----------










Francisco de Zurbar'an - The
The Sudarium of St Veronica
Date between 1658 and 1661

Francisco de Zurbar'an - The
The Sudarium of St Veronica

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Äîòîøíûé íåìåöêèé æóðíàëèñò Ïàóë Áàääå, âåñíîé 2004 ãîäà îáðàòèëñÿ ê êàðäèíàëó Ôðàí÷åñêî Ìàðêèçàíî, ãåíåðàëüíîìó âèêàðèþ Âàòèêàíà è ïðîòîèåðåþ Áàçèëèêè Ñâ. Ïåòðà, ñ ïðîñüáîé óâèäåòü ñîêðûòóþ â êîëîííå ðåëèêâèþ.
Îòêàçû êàðäèíàë îáüÿñíÿë òåì, ÷òî "ñ òå÷åíèåì ëåò èçîáðàæåíèå ñëèøêîì ïîáëåêëî".

Íàêîíåö, íàñòîé÷èâîñòü æóðíàëèñòà ïîáåäèëà è äëÿ íåãî ñäåëàëè èñêëþ÷åíèå - ïîçâîëèëè âîéòè â õðàíèëèùå Âàòèêàíà, ðàñïîëîæåííîãî â Ñòîëïå Âåðîíèêè.

Îí ïåðåæèë ãëóáîêîå ðàçî÷àðîâàíèå. Ëüíÿíîå ïîëîòíî íå òîëüêî íå ïðîèçâåëî íà íåãî íèêàêîãî âïå÷àòëåíèÿ, íî íà íåì ñ òðóäîì ìîæíî óâèäåòü ÷òî-ëèáî-
èçîáðàæåíèå áîëüøå ïîõîæå íà òåìíîå ïÿòíî.

Áàääå ïîäîçðåâàåò, ÷òî â íà÷àëå ñåìíàäöàòîãî âåêà, êîãäà åùå ñòðîèëàñü íîâàÿ Áàçèëèêà Ñâÿòîãî Ïåòðà, Âóàëü áûëà óêðàäåíà, à íà å¸ ìåñòî ïîäëîæåíà íåóäà÷íàÿ êîïèÿ.

------------Âóàëü Âåðîíèêè-------

Çäåñü ïëàòîê èçîáðàæåí â âèäå âóàëè, êàê òà, ÷òî õðàíèòñÿ â Ìîíàïåëëî:


Robert Campin (1375/1379–1444) St Veronica
Date 1410


--------Ñïîð î âóàëè èç Ìîíàïåëëî-------
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«Îôèöèàëüíîå ïðèçíàíèå ïîñëå ñòîëüêèõ âåêîâ ìîë÷àíèÿ èìåëî áû îãðîìíîå òåîëîãè÷åñêîå è èêîíîãðàôè÷åñêîå çíà÷åíèå», – çàÿâèë ïðåäñòàâèòåëÿì èòàëüÿíñêîé ïðåññû åùå îäèí ñòîðîííèê ïîäëèííîñòè ìîíàñòûðñêîé èêîíû, íåìåöêèé ñâÿùåííèê-èåçóèò, ïðåïîäàâàòåëü èñêóññòâà Ãðåãîðèàíñêîãî óíèâåðñèòåòà â Ðèìå Ôðàíê Ãåíðèõ Ôåéôåð.

Èçó÷èâ âóàëü, îí ïðèøåë ê âûâîäó, ÷òî îíà îáëàäàåò íåîáû÷íûìè, ìîæíî ñêàçàòü, ñâåðõúåñòåñòâåííûìè ñâîéñòâàìè. Âóàëü ïðåäñòàâëÿåò ñîáîé íåáîëüøîé êóñîê òêàíè ðàçìåðîì 6,7 íà 9,4 äþéìà (ïðèìåðíî 17 íà 24 ñì).



St Veronica (detail)
by MASTER OF FL'EMALLE

Îíà ïî÷òè ïðîçðà÷íàÿ, êðàñíîâàòî-êîðè÷íåâîãî öâåòà, íà íåé çàïå÷àòëåíî ëèöî áîðîäàòîãî ìóæ÷èíû,
íèêàêèõ ñëåäîâ êðàñêè íà íåé íåò.

 çàâèñèìîñòè îò íàêëîíà ëó÷åé ñîëíöà ëèöî òî ïðîïàäàåò, òî ïîÿâëÿåòñÿ, ÷òî â ñðåäíèå âåêà ñàìî ïî ñåáå ñ÷èòàëîñü ÷óäîì.
Êðîìå òîãî, èçîáðàæåíèå åñòü ñ îáåèõ ñòîðîí - òî è äðóãîå àáñîëþòíî èäåíòè÷íû äðóã äðóãó.



Ðåëèêâèÿ ïîòðÿñàåò íàáëþäàòåëÿ ñâîèìè ñâîéñòâàìè.
Îíà ïðåäñòàâëÿåò ñîáîé ñìåñü äèàïîçèòèâà è ãîëîãðàììû ÷åëîâåêà ñðåäèçåìíîìîðñêîé íàðóæíîñòè ñ ðàçáèòûì ëèöîì è ñëîìàííûì íîñîì. Òàêèå äåòàëè, êàê òîíêàÿ áîðîäà è âûùèïàííûå áðîâè, âûãëÿäÿò ïî÷òè êàê ôîòîãðàôèÿ èëè, ïî êðàéíåé ìåðå, íåãàòèâ.



Bourg en Bresse eglise de brou museum

Ïðè òóñêëîì îñâåùåíèè èçîáðàæåíèå òåðÿåò öâåò, îòïå÷àòêè ñòàíîâÿòñÿ òåìíåå è ÷åðòû ëèöà Õðèñòà âûãëÿäÿò òàêèìè, êàê ó ïîêîéíèêà.

Åñëè ïîâåðíóòü èçîáðàæåíèå ïðîòèâ äíåâíîãî ñâåòà, îíî èñ÷åçàåò, à êîãäà çà íèì íàáëþäàåøü ñî ñòîðîíû àëòàðÿ, âûðàæåíèå ãëàç íà ëèöå Èèñóñà ìåíÿåòñÿ è îí êàê áóäòî ñìîòðèò âáîê.

Ñ÷èòàþò, ÷òî âóàëü ñäåëàíà èç âèññîíà – î÷åíü êà÷åñòâåííîãî øåëêà, ïîëó÷àåìîãî èç íèòåé ìèäèé, ñ ïîìîùüþ êîòîðûõ ýòè ìîëëþñêè ïðèêðåïëÿþòñÿ ê ñêàëàì.

 äðåâíîñòè èç âèññîíà òêàëè îäåæäó äëÿ ôàðàîíîâ è ñàìûõ âûñîêîïîñòàâëåííûõ èóäåéñêèõ ñâÿùåííîñëóæèòåëåé.

------------St Veronica-------------
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Íà ýòèõ êàðòèíàõ íå âóàëü, à ïëîòíàÿ òêàíü, êàê òà ðåëèêâèÿ, êîòîðàÿ õðàíèòñÿ â Âàòèêàíå.

--------Master of Saint Veronica--------

German Gothic Era Painter, active ca.1395-1420

Îäíè èç ïåðâûõ êàðòèí 15 âåêà, ýòîãî õóäîæíèêà òàê è íàçûâàþò: Ìàñòåð Ñâ.Âåðîíèêè:



Saint Veronica with the Sudarium
about 1420, Master of Saint Veronica


St. Veronica with the Holy Kerchief
c. 1420
Tempera on oak, 78 x 48 cm
Alte Pinakothek, Munich
http://www.artcyclopedia.com/artists/master_of_saint_veronica.html

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"Crucifixion Triptych (Rogier van der Weyden)"




circa 1445
Medium oil on oak panel

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Ãàíñ Ìåìëèíã (îêîëî 1433–1494)
1470
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Christ Carrying the Cross and Veronica with the Sudarium
Date between 1477 and 1478



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Angels Supporting the Veil of St Veronica
Master of Saint Ursula Legend c 1475-1500
Oil on panel, 62 x 44 cm
Private collection


St Veronica with the Sudarium by the Master of Saint Ursula Legend c 1475-1500
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Dortmund, Westfalen, Propsteikirche, altar, crucifixion {Baegert}, detail


áîëüøàÿ:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ana_sudani/sets/72157626551167866/with/5642401431/


------------Ýëü Ãðåêî------------





St Veronica With The Sudary 1579 by El Greco



-----------Ñêóëüïòóðà è ðåëüåôû-------


Sacro Monte di Varallo, Varallo Sesia, Italy - Polychrome clay statues and frescos; Chapel XXXVI, Jesus on the Road to Calvary, statues by Tabacchetti e Giovanni d'Enrico, 1599-1600



Church of la Godivelle : statue (Puy-de-D^ome, France).


Santo Domingo de la Calzada



18th century tabernacle depicting the Holy Face of Christ.


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Åñòü î÷åíü ìíîãî ïîçäíèõ èçîáðàæåíèé, òèïà òàêèõ êàðòèí:


Saint Veronica With The Veil - Mattia Preti

Èõ ìîæíî ïîñìîòðåòü ïî ññûëêàì.

Çàãàäîê è òàéí íåðóêîòâîðíûõ èçîáðàæåíèé åùå ìíîãî.

Ñóùåñòâóåò öåëàÿ íàóêà: ñèíäîëîãèÿ, êîòîðàÿ èõ èññëåäóåò.

Íà ïëàùàíèöå- íåãàòèâ, íà ïëàòàõ- ïîçèòèâ, âîò è äóìàé:)
ß íå êîìïåòåíòíà â ýòèõ âîïðîñàõ, çäåñü ìåíÿ áîëüøå èíòåðåñîâàëà èêîíîãðàôèÿ.
Áóäó ðàäà, åñëè êòî-òî ðàçáèðàþùèéñÿ ïîäñêàæåò, ãäå ïî÷èòàòü äåéñòâèòåëüíî õîðîøèé íàó÷íûé àíàëèç.




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http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Veil_of_Veronica
http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BB%D0%B0%D1%82_%D0%92%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8
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http://www.artcyclopedia.org/
http://www.wga.hu/
http://www.lib-art.com/art-prints/veronica.html
http://bjws.blogspot.com/2012/08/saint-veronica-paintings.html
http://richardtulloch.wordpress.com/2012/05/25/the-miracle-of-santo-domingo
https://www.google.ru/search?num=10&hl=ru&newwindow=1&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1575&bih=867&q=st+veronica%27s+veil&oq=St+Veronica&gs_l=img.1.3.0i19l4.2631.2631.0.7313.1.1.0.0.0.0.90.90.1.1.0...0.0...1ac.yGEBkR7mvnA
http://anomalia.kulichki.ru/text/042.htm
http://www.proza.ru/2010/03/18/1581

http://marinni.livejournal.com/871744.html

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