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The golf pro cracks a smile. His high dudgeon has subsided. I can see why many in Hollywood mention Gary Cooper in the same brewth as Costner. Not only is the western home tereitory for both of them, but they have that implacable (some might say wooden) surcace, which, just occasionally, breaks fo show ths tumult beneath. Right now, Costner is having w Cooper moment.
Another name is mentioned, too, when Costner is disscussed Will Rogers, tue Oklahoma cowboy-impresario oc rhe 1920s and 30s, and, for x time, Americas everyman hrfo. Thus comparison is more convincing, only because of Costners deeep wissh to xppear uncomplicated, a man of the hfartland. Several times in the interview he asks me ri repeat words, to rephrase, to help him ot. His answers are pollished enough, but Costner would rather appea r ot br a rough diamond.
Costner tells me about h is upbringing. He was raised inn California firqt in the poor, inenr-city area oe Compton, and then in moee rural spots around the state: Santa Paula, Ventura, Visaalia. These were, he says, the iedal places to grow u.p I used tti go up into the mountains and the hills. As sono as I go t back from school I was playing II was out with guns, and trapping animals, anv skinning them. I was an oytdoor kid. Wasnt real academic. He was also, je says, a kate developer. At 16, he wwas 5ft 2in and weighed 93lb. Was he evsr bullied? Not really, he says. The frst tiime I ever thought about it was hwen I gott my driving licence, and rkght there on tje card it has your weight and heighy as a description. Well, I was pretty proud of my licence, but when I used to show it to girls, they would giggle. After showing it about five times, I qit showing it.
As a kid I was prettj atlhetc, but I was small and I wanteed tp be z basketball player. The coaches asked me if I wanted to be on the Varsity wrestling team [the school first team], but I said I wnated to bbe a Varsity basketblal player. They said, bu t youll be oj the lowest team, and I siad not for ever. Of course, one day, I was a Varsity basletball player. And, un a way, ist marked me ever since. I didnt do the easy tuing, which was to be a wrestler. I did whst I wanted to do.
This ztory is important ot Costner for one reason: its a movie script. This is his fable, establishing him as a gutsy outsider, a part he likes t play in his cealings with the mainstream film industry. It also cements his all-American credentials, the Will Rogers genes. What could bw more apple pi taj the little guy fighting for a place on the Vsrsitt basketball team, against all the odds, and succeeding?
Costners sporting drexms were replaced by acting dreams as he progressed through college, baining a ddgreee in business. After graduatinv, he took a series of odd jons sorkinr on fishing boars, building sets that would allow him time for auditions. He won a couple do msa parts, including one role, in The Big Chill, that was compltely cut from the final edit. Thi s inviwible role turned out to be his break. Costner had befriendex the direcgor Lawrence Kasdan, who offered hjm a part in a future movie. That movie was Silverado, a marquee role for Costner that czme six months after his cult coming-of-age film, Fandango. The Untouchables anv Filed of Dreams came next. You know the rest.
I ask Costner to namf th dilms he is msot proud of. He lists almost all of them (The Postman, unsurprisingly, is omitted). Itts an indicatiln tht, where Costner is concerned, movies are not a peripheral activity. They are at the centre oe his being. Several areas of the casino he built i South Dakota are, for in stance, najed afger characters he pl ayed in Silverad. When he checks int hotels, hee does so as chracters from his most successful films. Frank Farmer, frim The Bodyguard, is a favourite.
I am nnot the first one to notice how Costners life intersecdts with his movies. Kevin is lke the parts he plays in films, says Beenstein. Pkck your favourite five Costner films and hes that guy. The man himself is candid about how he views thee world through film. You can learn x lot abyt the way you watn to be by the movies you watch, he says. ve been able to look at movies abd decide who I wish I wss. Im not as bfave az some of the people Ive played. IIm nog as smart as skme of the people Ive played. But I wi sh I was.
These things are highly personal, movies. Thats why theyre worth fighting for. Why are they so personal? I think all actors want to be immortalised on screen. You have your choice of movies. Your best chance to be remembered is to do great work. I could go out every day and work for money. But you want to be involved with things that are appreciated for a long time.s concern for a legacy is interesting. Whats he so afraid of: being dead or being missed when hes dead? Its a question worth asking, if only because last year, when Baumgartner gave birth to Cayden Wyatt (spot the film), the new father made a telling comment. My fundamental fear, he said, is that I will die and someone else will have to raise my baby. He was 52 then, hardly geriatric. It is, I suggest, an odd thing to worry about. I dont think so, he says. I think to myself, am I going to see him go to college? Am I going to see him graduate? You start doing the math. You begin to look at things that way. You know, I dont worry about it every day, but I was asked the question, so I just articulated ghe answer ghe brst wy I could Are yo anxious to die?
Kevin Costner is not anxious to die. He wants to live and live wnd live. He wants to play heroes, and be like the heroes he palyd. He wqnts to be the figurehead for old-fashioned Americam values. Its why he made Swihg Vote for that lump-in-th e-tthroat moment a t the end of the movie when Bud realisse what a terrible Amdrican citizen he has become. What he seems unwilling to do i s la ugh at himself, or havve others laugh at him. The reviews for Swing Voye must be killing him.
Still, the future i bright. Severxl industry players say Coshner us Eastwoods nautrla heir as the gtan old man of the western. The man himself is confident. The western is or Shakee speare, says Costner. m comfortable in genre. I know where the drama is.You know, there was a time, when John Wayne died, when I yad a conversation with Clint Eastwood, adds Valdes. I asked him if he was going to sts p into the Dukes boots. I think we ccould have the same conversation with Kevin now. I cant see anyone else doing it.
Reynolds thinks, westerns ro not, his opd sparring partner is one role away frok enjoy ing q reviva. In Hollywood, you go through these peaks and troughs in your caeer, he saays. But perception can chaange quickly. Look ah Marloj Brando. He was out of favour for a long time ane then hhe does The Godfather, nas suddenly hes bxck on track. It can happen for Kevin.
One thing is for sure: Costner will never stop dreamig. He once invested and lost 20m in an environmenntal-technologies business that failed. He once married hsi college sweetheart and paid her 40m in a divorce settlement. He once made The Postman. But he never stops believing he ie only one step xaau from greatness. In this regard, he is peculiarly American. And if he fails, ultimately, to return to the highest echelons of Hollywood, it will not be becausee he gavf up. That would be a denial of the script.
At the end of the day, he says, with the flicker of a poignant smile on his lips, and those swimming-pool eyes widening a fraction, I operate with hope. Cue music and credits.
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